Ernest John OLIVER

[avm228]

Possible marriage:

Marriage Mar qtr 1895   
 
NASH Elizabeth Jane   
OLIVER Ernest John

on same page, Shoreditch 1c 167

Ignore this marriage - I have established that this is a different couple (this Ernest was b abt 1870 Ashford, Kent).

[CaroleW]

The 1895 marriage is the correct one so they should be on the 1901 census

[BILL.Y]

Wow!  You guys are QUICK!   Thanks for all the help. 

I don't seem to be able to get to the info even when you've supplied the links.  I found an EJ Oliver listed in Carole's FBMD link but he was listed as Tynemouth - then I found him in Plymouth - I've no idea how?!   Doh!

Anyway, back to the story.   I think the EJ Oliver is the one born in Cheltenham.  The War Graves Commission shows him living in Plymouth but his wife came from Cheltenham.   Also he is on the Royal Engineers 'Cheltonian' Roll of Honour so he either joined there or was based there.  And this explains how he married someone from Cheltenham.

Actually, looking at the CWGC certificate again I suppose it makes more sense to read it that HE was a native of Cheltenham, not his wife, although it's a little ambiguous.

If this is right his father is listed as John Jnr. Oliver [was Junior a name in those days?].   John Jnr was born in Silverton which is about 8 miles N of Exeter so that may help explain how they ended up in Plymouth?

[avm228]

The family's 1901 census entry at RG13/2462/92/10 (family in Cheltenham) shows that Ernest was born Cheltenham and his wife was born in Plymouth.

Shout if you don't have access.

Anna

[BILL.Y]

Thanks Anna,

I don't have access or, if I do, I don't know how to find it.   Can you point me in the right direction?  I've tried looking on the 'official' 1911 census site but no EJ Olivers appear.

Mind you nobody told me this sort of stuff was easy.    OK, OK, you guys make it look easy but you must have done the course!   

[avm228]

I don't have access or, if I do, I don't know how to find it.   Can you point me in the right direction?  I've tried looking on the 'official' 1911 census site but no EJ Olivers appear.

Sometimes this happens if you narrow the search terms too far.  Not everybody stated their middle name/initial on the 1911 census.  Try looking for Ernest Oliver b Cheltenham and see if that helps.

Anna

[avm228]

1901 census: RG13/2462/92/10

27 Columbia St, Cheltenham

Ernest Jno. OLIVER Head M 23 Labourer, Corporation Gloucestersh. Cheltenham
Elizabeth do Wife M 25 Devonshire Plymouth
Florance May do Daur 3 Devonshire Plymouth
Vera Kathn. do Daur 3mo Gloucestersh. Cheltenham
Martha GARRISON Boarder S 60 Gloucestersh. Winchcombe

[avm228]

Birth:

Mar qtr 1901

Vera Kathleen OLIVER Cheltenham 6a 429

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Florance May do Daur 3 Devonshire Plymouth

Birth Jun qtr 1898   
 
BIGNOLD Florence May     
Plymouth 5b 264