WW1 records confusion..

[carol8353]

Searching the web for data and I find the William John Stainer I am looking for, came from Shaftesbury, Dorset, and was born 1880..
reg

But Reg is looking for William John Stainer b Dorset 1880 so why are people mentioning other names?

Carol (also confused now  )

[mmm45]

RWG Stainer came from Shaftesbury in Dorset...basically William in his name same surname etc  and he drowned  explore all avenues as military and family records get mixed up over the years theres a lot of coincidences here 

Ady

[mmm45]

The sapper William John that died in 1917 of wounds lived in Dorchester and enlisted in Warwickshire if that helps?

Ady

[Finder]

LOL!, the name thing, I've been lead on a merry chase on some family, either they change the name or errors etc, all part of the fun in searching 

James

[Borley Manor]

http://www.naval-history.net/xDKCas1913subs.htm

What about this lad Richard WG Stainer lost at sea 1909 in Submarine C11 ??

 Richard William George Stainer.may have been known as William??

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=6991685&queryType=1&resultcount=30

Ady

   This is very intriguing, I only have a time worn reference to a William drowning at sea, I worked out my grandmothers maiden name to the Stainer family by referencing her childrens birth certificates which give maiden name as Stainer and not Staines as my mother wrongly would have it, but, there are loads around those parts. Searching for confirmation of which branch of the Stainer's family she belonged to is fraught with perils. I have since found out, again, word of mouth, that my grandfather married the best looking of five sisters, this makes it even more difficult as the census returns list loads, but, none include my grandmother. I just have a birth ref for Alice Maude Stainer, 5a226, page 504 jul-sept 1884. She was born on 29.7.84. I hope.
So maybe the William John Stainer is a red herring, it gets you down after a while. I have 63 Stainer's all within a certain time period, all around Shaftesbury/Dorchester/Weymouth/Salisbury etc, but none of them are a Richard W G Stainer, but it fits so well....
Do I keep buying copies of birth cert's until I light on the right one, I am already £14 down incorrectly....lol

Will anybody buy the Big Issue, as I need the money to pursue this...lol
reg

Oh and thankyou all the people who are helping, it's appreciated.

[carol8353]

Do you have your gran's birth or marriage record to know her dad's name or his job?

Have you found the family in each of the censuses?

Would you like some help to do so...........it'd be cheaper than keep buying the wrong certs 

Carol

[lizdb]

There are 2 Alice Maud Stainers .... (typical) on FreeBMD, one born 1884 and one 1889 in Dorset

The OTHER one (1889) is on 1891 census with parents Frederick and Angelina

But I cant see your one!

so I am probably just adding to the confusion!

[mmm45]

Buy Richard WGs Service record...it may have other family details on it
£3.50 as opposed to £7 GRO Cert....Interesting too 

Ady

[Borley Manor]

Okay...update time.
I have been on this all day now and most of the last two days, the Frederick/Angelina tie up is the wrong one, I actually have this cert' from only last week.

This then, becomes incredibly mind numbing from this point on.

The, hopefully, real grandmother is the 1884 birth at Shaftesbury. It has to be the one, as her name is spelt with a E in Maude, the other one isn't, the E stands for Ethel in that one....
The original enquiry was about a William John Stainer, I thought I was right about him, but, again, I was wrong  In fact, the help on here has sent me on a Richard William George Stainer tack instead.
If, and  do hope if, the Richard William George Stainer is the one that drowned in the submarine C11 is my grandmothers brother, then a whole raft of other Stainers show up on the census reports. I have copied these all down and can track related folk back to the 1841 census, it then fragments awfully...
The drowned Richard (isn't it awful how I talk about the poor chap), also has a father Richard, who's father was a Charles and down to about 1851, when there are about five Charles Stainer's, all born around Shaftesbury.
It has taken forever to translate the spelling on a lot of documents, but it does look positive for once...makes a pleasant change.

I choose to write stuff in longhand with a fountain pen and have dried up an ink cartridge on this family alone in three days. I have to confirm all the above before transferring to p.c., I am going on holiday, I think, instead...