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Frederick William SMITH
« on: Tuesday 12 January 10 18:43 GMT (UK) »
Looking for the above in the 1851 and 1861 census, born around 1847, Bath.
I've found him in the 1871 census with wife Elizabeth at Walcot (no children at this time).
Thanks in advance.

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Re: Frederick William Smith
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 12 January 10 18:49 GMT (UK) »
There is a candidate in Walcot, with a Father Henry; a Shoemaker.


Have you got your man's marriage papers, which will name his father and his trade?

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Re: Frederick William Smith
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 January 10 18:58 GMT (UK) »
Think this may be their marriage:-

Marriages Mar 1871 
 
Browne  Mary    Bath  5c 980   
Culliford  Elizabeth      Bath  5c 980   
Smith  Frederick William      Bath  5c 980   
Waight  Edwin     Bath  5c 980

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Re: Frederick William Smith
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 January 10 18:59 GMT (UK) »
1861 only one, has parents Frederick and Darias; living at 37 West Gate Street Bath. he was born abt 1845
Judd - Croydon Surrey<br />Venner, Coote - Beckenham, West Wickham, Bromley Kent<br />Shepston -  Westminster London Middlesex, Bristol<br />Knight - Deane & Andover Hampshire<br />Bull - Chimney sweeps, south of England<br />Bowles - Winterbourne Gunner & PlaitfordWiltshire<br />Kirby - Kings Somborne Hampshire<br />Winter - Plaitford & Landford Wiltshire<br />Arter - Plaitford & Sherfield English Hampshire<br />Clark - Hayling Island Hampshire<br />Pink - Hinton Ampner Hampshire & West Witteri

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Re: Frederick William Smith
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 January 10 19:19 GMT (UK) »
Thank you both for your fast replies.
I have sent for that wedding certificate (it is the persons mentioned) perhaps I should have held my horses until the info arrives.

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Re: Frederick William SMITH
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 13 January 10 15:45 GMT (UK) »
The wedding certificate arrived this afternoon, but unfortunately it is blank where the father's name should be.
Does this mean (as it seems to me) that Frederick was born out of wedlock?

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Re: Frederick William SMITH
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 13 January 10 15:54 GMT (UK) »
highly likely, unless he declined / forgot to provide it  .....


what about Witnesses ?



Oh, and have you found his Birth entry?

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Re: Frederick William SMITH
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 13 January 10 15:56 GMT (UK) »
possibly this one, which the transcriber has struggled with it seems.

Births Sep 1847   
 
Smith  Frederick *     Bath  11 44


Middle name could be Sidney - which ties in with one of the census I saw for a Frederick S ....


http://www2.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/information.pl?scan=1&r=12089958&d=bmd_1262089528

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Re: Frederick William SMITH
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 13 January 10 16:08 GMT (UK) »
The only 'fully named' man was born in the Bedminster District in 1850. On the 1851 census his parents are John and Matilda.

Added: He is married and in Worcs in 1871.
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