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Re: Psychic Genealogy
« Reply #81 on: Tuesday 13 October 15 12:24 BST (UK) »

I wonder what Hilda wanted?  And really why such a attachment?

Suzy W

I haven't the foggiest notion Suzy.  My memory isn't very good these days but she must have known me as a baby until we moved away in the 1940s, then we probably acknowledged each other when I worked at Priestman's myself in the late 1950s-1960s.  There were nearly 1,000 people working for that company but I do recall there being 3 ladies working on the machines on the shop floor who had apparently been employed there during the war.

Amazingly, one chap who "came through" was my school's blind piano tuner who also tuned my grandfather's piano.  "Children aren't as polite as they used to be" was his message   How on earth he "found" me after half a century had passed by is a mystery, plus I didn't even live in the same county as the rest of my family.

P.S. Even though my memory isn't too good, I think I must be a good conduit.  This was borne out a few years back when my daughter took me to a tarot card reader and she couldn't stop commenting on the "crowd" I'd brought with me - apparently she'd never experienced anything like it before.
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Re: Psychic Genealogy
« Reply #82 on: Tuesday 13 October 15 12:50 BST (UK) »
Maybe I need a little help finding what happened to my Edmund Tew who was a 16 year old convict.  Disappeared of the face of the earth, not even any Rootschat experts have traced him.
Or maybe he does not want to be found after 150 years. :(
Then again aren't we meant to be re-born after a while?

Suzy W

I'm convinced there are people who want to be found and people who don't!
Not sure about "psychics" to be honest but do believe in psychic phenomenon
I am amazed at how often I locate people close to a significant date
e.g. just yesterday I located an ancestor for someone, and her birthday was today
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Psychic Genealogy
« Reply #83 on: Tuesday 13 October 15 13:14 BST (UK) »
I am amazed at how often I locate people close to a significant date
e.g. just yesterday I located an ancestor for someone, and her birthday was today

That happens to me very often too and never ceases to give me goose bumps. I must have stumbled upon the baptism, marriage or death record on the exact anniversary dozens of times now, which makes me feel it is more than just coincidence.
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Re: Psychic Genealogy
« Reply #84 on: Tuesday 13 October 15 15:19 BST (UK) »
I am amazed at how often I locate people close to a significant date
e.g. just yesterday I located an ancestor for someone, and her birthday was today

That happens to me very often too and never ceases to give me goose bumps. I must have stumbled upon the baptism, marriage or death record on the exact anniversary dozens of times now, which makes me feel it is more than just coincidence.

I'm a bit thick as I never attributed imminent birthdays as a trigger to finding ancestors.  This might explain my latest finding.  A few days ago I changed my avatar on another website to commemorate by mother's 28th October birthday and not long afterwards found "Hilda" who used to live near us.  This prompted me to come onto rootschat to comment on it and, of course, I looked on the homepage, followed a link and as a direct result found myself reading the history of St. Andrews Castle in Fife where it dawned on me that some psychic genealogy clues I'd been given a decade ago could apply to my mother's English roots and not my paternal grandmother's Edinburgh roots as I'd originally thought.  A stepmother in her line was a "Helen Knox" and I'm pretty sure that the clues I was given referred to John Knox the Reformer.  I didn't research Helen because she's not my bloodline.  One of the clues I'd been given was "St. Andrews", I know of St. Andrews the golf course and as one of my father's schools was a St. Andrew church, Glasgow, I knew about that too, but I didn't know there was a St. Andrews Castle that was once the abode of Scottish Bishops and had come under attack at a time when there was a tussle between the Catholics and Presbyterians in the 1500s.

Here's the short notes I made of the clues I followed at the time:-
*He's big in the church
*Edinburgh,(Knox lived i Edinburgh for a time)
*waving incense - high church in your family
*St. Andrews
*County Durham   (Durham Cathedral was built by Catholic Queen Ann - it's now Presbyterian and John Knox preached there)
*Elizabeth, she's walking towards an old turret and there's stairs inside, - looks like a church. There's a man standing there wearing a hat (she made gestures to describe the hat) he's dressed in burgundy with gold and underneath he's wearing a white robe.portraits of bishops show clothe similar to the description)
*"People are hiding there, I can see them coming out from behind chairs.  Elizabeth helps people.  She helps poor people, she takes food to poor people."
*Presbyterian, Catholic   "I can't make out whether his name is Rochester or it's a place Rochester" (Knox was offered the Bishopric of Rochester which he turned down)
* "Have you got a blood disease in yur family"? (NO)
* There's a connection to Royalty
* "I'm now on the River Thames, Henry V and Henry VI
* I must have protested about any Royalty connection at this stage because my next note is "Be open minded"
"Seal on piece of paper.
*Gwynne

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At the time I didn't connect those notes with these notes:-
*Lucy   Yorkshire born Lucy Speight b1854 was my grandmother's mother
*Richmond / Egerton (Edgerton?) / Yorkshire
Westmoreland
Bowes museum - you've been there
Windsor - you've been there
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John Knox had a connection through marriage to the Bowes family. (Windsor = Bowes-Lyon = Queen Mother).
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I haven't taken Lucy Speight's line back further than the late 1700s and so far there's no Bowes in the line.  However, she is descended from an  "Askin" which could lead back to the "Aske" family which in turn is linked to the Bowes family.

from Wiki:-  Elizabeth Bowes (née Aske) (1505 – c.1572) was an English Protestant exile, and a follower of John Knox, her son-in-law.
Was this the Elizabeth who helped the poor people?

I hope some of you found this interesting  :D :o
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Re: Psychic Genealogy
« Reply #85 on: Tuesday 13 October 15 17:23 BST (UK) »
Aske is not a common name, and I am a little surprised to find that Elizabeth Aske was an English protestant exile. If she was a kinswoman of Robert Aske, lawyer and participant in the Pilgrimage of Grace 1536 then it is no surprise that she was in exile in Scotland, but the Pilgrimage was Catholic to its core.
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Re: Psychic Genealogy
« Reply #86 on: Tuesday 13 October 15 18:25 BST (UK) »
As I apparently had at least two ancestors who were into spiritualism, and mediums, I must've done something wrong - never a clue has "magically" come through! Mind you, never expected any to!
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Re: Psychic Genealogy
« Reply #87 on: Tuesday 13 October 15 19:53 BST (UK) »
Rena
I love the connections! I am convinced that there is something about dates that make links stronger - I originally thought it was because I searched around the time of birthdays or anniversaries because my software reminded me of the people. Then I noticed that I was finding people that I was previously unaware of on, or near dates that were significant for them.
If only my elusive Rita would make herself known to me!
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Psychic Genealogy
« Reply #88 on: Tuesday 13 October 15 22:07 BST (UK) »
Before I comment I will say I am like an earlier poster (paraphrased) ''I don't subscribe to the theory but I keep an open mind as to possibilities''

When I first saw the title to this I wondered if it was going to be about those name collectors who put someone in because '' it feels right''

Yet I really cant complain as I am not convinced on one possible link  because '' it doesn't pass the smell test'' - something is telling me I need to be cautious in adding this name to my list.

Yet I can spot that it is good scientific reasoning behind this. Check check check and only enter the data you have. Not what you might have. Its the same as looking for something. By continuing to look you narrow your search parameters until you find what you want. So when someone says '' I stumbled upon the gravestone'' it could well be '' I looked everywhere and this was my last possibility.'' Yet no psychic link would have been made if it was found first.

''something told me to look here'' could well be the brain working away in the background connecting information and experiences until a thought forms.

Well wasn't that a bucket of cold water  :)



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« Reply #89 on: Tuesday 13 October 15 22:28 BST (UK) »
Eerily, I have just looked up some information based on a request on this site and eventually found reference to a family headstone - LINK
The lady's birthdate was October 13th 1834 - 181 years ago today!
Hopefully she'll be found to fit into someone's family tree. ;D
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder