Harding, Fitzgerald

[agho]

The birth location is most likely Coolmore as Shanew suggested. Coolmore is outside Carrigaline on the way to Currabinny. There was a large demesne there called Coolmore House where they may have worked? See info on this link http://carrigaline.info

[crimea1854]

Brenda

The following may be of interest:

John Harding entered the CG Service from HMS Thunderer on 21 December 1844, his first posting being Morston CG Station. On the 22 March 1845 he was transferred to Jarrow Quay, and from here to Blyth Haven on 29 July 1850.

On the 23 October 1857 he was promoted to Commissioned Boatman, remaining at the same station, from where, in June 1861 he was discharged to pension.

Based on the above I checked the National Archives for a Pension Application, and found one for a man who matched most of the known info, This has the NA Cat Ref. ADM 29/63/349. This can be ordered online direct from the NA.

If you do get this record and find that John Harding was serving on HMS Thunderer as an Ordinary Seaman in 1840, then the man of the same name who applied for, and received the Naval General Service Medal with the Syria Clasp, is your John. This medal is currently not recorded as being known to still exist.

Regards


Martin

[ftcorkmdb]

John Harding married Mary Fitzgerald, 23 Nov 1843, probably at Raheens, Coolmore, Carrigaline, Passage West/Monkstown Catholic parish.  (Weddings at the time were not generally held in the 'chapel', but in someone's house.)  The Hardings had been employed for many years by the Newenham family on the Coolmore estate (demesne), still owned and farmed by the Newenhams.   As per the Newenham estate papers, Robert Harding paid tithes on his acres at Raheens, Coolmore, in 1787, and Peter Harding and 'the Harding boys'  were listed in 1789 on the Coolmore employment rolls.  The Hardins will probalbly also be found in the Coolmore demesne ledgers in the 1750s.  The Fitzgeralds were stonemasons at Coolmore and very likely helped build Coolmore House (still standing, vacant) in the 1780s.  A James, Thomas and Robert Harding were farmers at Raheens at the time of the census of 1911.

[Irish Harding]

Can't thank you enough for forwarding this information.  When I googled Coolmore, I got information on the stud/stable at Coolmore.  Is this the same location?

[ftcorkmdb]

No, Coolmore stud is in County Tipperary.  Send me your e-mail address, and I will send you the Harding-Fitzgerald  information I have.  There is some way of sending an e-mail address via a 'private message' on this website, but they keep it a secret. You may have to use one of their secret icons or abbreviations.  I think these people are British, and the British like cute things like that.
You must tell me your name and where you live.  I no longer give out information from my database to people if I don't know who they are.

[KarenM]

There is some way of sending an e-mail address via a 'private message' on this website, but they keep it a secret. You may have to use one of their secret icons or abbreviations.  I think these people are British, and the British like cute things like that.

It's not a secret.  To send a personal message there is 2 ways. 

1.  Click on the green scroll under the person's name you want to send a private message to.

2.  Click on the person's profile, scroll down a bit, then click on the link that says "send this rootschatter a personal message"




Karen

[Irish Harding]

Thank you Karen, I figured it out without too much problem.

[ftcorkmdb]

And do you expect a reader to be a magician to be able to figure these things out?  Why would I think that a 'green scroll', if that is what you call it, would have anything to do with obtaining someone's e-mail address? 

[KarenM]

And do you expect a reader to be a magician to be able to figure these things out?  Why would I think that a 'green scroll', if that is what you call it, would have anything to do with obtaining someone's e-mail address? 

Nope, not at all.  But when your cursor hover's over the green scroll and it says "Send Personal Message", not sure how much clearer it can be?

Here's a link on how to use rootschat, perhaps a read through that might help.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,207046.0.html

Karen