Coopers from and to .... all over the place !

[liverpool annie]

No marriage or banns for Frederick and Theresa.... just the FreeBMD index ref I quoted before...

William COOPER and Elizabeth ROWE come up but not Fred and Theresa.  And it's just a Parish Record, so no parents mentioned.

Darn It

Karenlee

Thats a bummer !! 

[karenlee]

Going back to the 1841 there is a Frederick with mother Elizabeth but no father.... in Bethnal Green... might be useful to track..... brother Thomas and sister Mary still at home too.

Father might have been William but might have died.

Karenlee

[karenlee]

Okay.

I can't find both a William and a Frederick to a John and Esther... or a John and Elizabeth....

BUT

I can find a William COOPER born 27 Jan 1808 and bapt 26 Feb 1808 St Mary Marylebone. Parents William and Elizabeth COOPER

I can find a Frederick COOPER born 25 Aug 1816 and bapt 15 Sept 1816 St Mary Marylebone Westminster. Parents William and Elizabeth COOPER.

Still looking

Karenlee

[liverpool annie]

I found William but not Frederick ..... 

William COOPER
Birth - 27 JAN 1808 
Christening - 26 FEB 1808 
Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London
Father - William COOPER
Mother - Elizth

And Elizabeth ...

Elizabeth COOPER   
Birth -  04 JAN 1810     
Christening - 04 FEB 1810     
Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London
Father -     William COOPER   
Mother -    Elizabeth

And Charles

Charles COOPER
Birth -  11 FEB 1814 
Christening - 06 MAR 1814 
Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England
Father - William COOPER
Mother - Elizabeth

[karenlee]

Not getting anywhere fast here.

Do know that William and Elizabeth nee Lardner has two daughters - Mary Ann 1813 Holy Trinity Clapham Lambeth  and Emma 1816 St Leonard Streatham Lambeth... because it was so helpfully written on the Baptism entry that Mother's maiden name was LARDNER...

Why can't they all be that considerate...??

Karenlee

[liverpool annie]

So they moved to Lambeth ? ... I've got a feeling these are the right two ... don't you ?

[karenlee]

St Marylebone Westminster
Mary COOPER born 25 Jan 1820 bapt 13 Feb 1820
William and Elizabeth COOPER
Occupation given as Trade.

Same church
Emily COOPER born Aug 10 1822  bapt Sept 1 1822
William and Elizabeth COOPER
Occupation same

Same Church
Robert COOPER born March 18 1824 Bapt April 10
William and Elizabeth COOPER
Foley Place
Occuaption same

[liverpool annie]

I found Emma !!   .... that church gave the maiden names on a regular basis .... what a concept ??

Emma COOPER   
Birth - 19 JUL 1816     
Christening - 18 AUG 1816     
Holy Trinity, Clapham Surrey
Father -    William COOPER   
Mother -    Elizabeth LARDNER

[liverpool annie]

I'm tellin' you .... these Coopers ..... they love to have babies !! 

Though I'm seriously wondering if this is TWO William and Elizabeths ..... 

Edit ... they're in Westminster - then they go to Lambeth - then they go back to Westminster  does that sound funny to you ?