trying to find birth in dunedin *COMPLETED*

[Lucy2]

Great  ... so getting the printout for Lilly's 2nd marriage, certainly did pay off (as I thought it might).   

Some progress, at long last.   

Yes, there is a child "John Scott HENDERSON - born 27 December, 1905 ... birth registered in 1906 ... born to "a James HENDERSON and Annie ?"

So did this James HENDERSON die in 1916 ?    (You haven't given the date / year of his death ? )

~  Lu

[Lucy2]

Hi Karen

DEATHS -  James HENDERSON

There were 23 "hits" for deaths for persons named James HENDERSON (or James + second christian name) - between 1903 and 25 May 1916 (when Lilly Jane remarried).


1916 / 1168 - HENDERSON - James - (about) 39 years (bc 1877)
[Buried at Napier - occupation:  joiner]

Hi Karen

Is this the death you are referring to  ?

[Lucy2]

If it is this 1916 one, then I possibly still have the cemetery information (somewhere    ).    Will have a search for it.

~  Lu

[Lucy2]

hi, update we have the Marriage C back of lilly vercoe married to william devin and it says she was a widow on the 28th feb 1916.

hmm the only james henderson that died isnt him

Apologies Karen.   

I see now where you've given information about the date ... and I sort of read that as being that "28th February 1916" was the date of Lilly's 2nd marriage.    

Of course, I know she remarried in May of 1916  ... and I should have made the connection with the James who died at Napier.    Doh !        (It's just that this is a very long thread ... and I have to keep re-reading it everytime something gets posted.)

~  Lu 

[karenoz]

Great  ... so getting the printout for Lilly's 2nd marriage, certainly did pay off (as I thought it might).   

Some progress, at long last.   

Yes, there is a child "John Scott HENDERSON - born 27 December, 1905 ... birth registered in 1906 ... born to "a James HENDERSON and Annie ?"

So did this James HENDERSON die in 1916 ?    (You haven't given the date / year of his death ? )

~  Lu

yes this is the james we think has died on the 28.2.1916 in napier it says in the paper that he was a widow,so to pin point Annies death, i have 4 in the right years, 1908 age 36,1910 age 43,1914 age 40,1909 age 22. no marriage for a james and annie 1900-1906 but then if its our guy he was still married to lily.
or this guy has come out from scotland already married to annie.

can we see a marriage for his son john scott henderson and where? it may lead to a cue.


karen

[Lucy2]

can we see a marriage for his son john scott henderson and where? it may lead to a cue.

karen

No  ... not up till (today's date) 1930.

And there's not a NZ death for this John Scott HENDERSON either.

Maybe the children of this union were adopted (or fostered) out and had their names changed (they were still very young when they were orphaned.) 

Can I ask please, where you got the information about this "Annie GEIRS from Scotland" ?

~  Lu

[karenoz]

Sorry i dont know where i got that from. i know i am writing down everything now,as where it came from.

[Lucy2]

Well, afraid I can't really help you then, with this Annie.   

For this James HENDERSON - died 28 February 1916, the age is shown on the NZ Death index as "39YA".  The "YA" denotes "years about".   In other words his correct age wasn't known to the informant to his death and so it has been guessed at.

Given that his date of death is exactly the same as that recorded for Lilly's "date of widowhood", then it's a more than a fair bet he is Lilly's former husband.

Perhaps it's a good idea to firstly get his death printout and see what information it contains ?


~   Lu

[Lucy2]

Fortunately I still had the details of the cemetery enquiry for the James who died at Napier.   

HENDERSON - James - aged 39
Died:   28 February 1916
Burial date:   2 March 1916
Address:  Napier       Occupation:   Joiner

Warrant # 1  -  Plot 1
Cemetery:    Napier Hill
Area:   Napier Hill
Section/Wall:    Section S
Plot/Niche No.   3045
Page 135      Interment # 1
Burial/Ashes:   Buried        Depth:  6 ft

*  [Show record on website   3*1*28 ]

Headstone reference:   1574
Headstone Inscription:
"James HENDERSON d. 28.2.16 at 39"
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Okay  ... so it looks likes someone knew (and cared for) this James, especially as there appears to be a headstone ?

*   Have no idea what the reference to "website" refers to ?    These Napier Hill burials don't appear online.

So, as previously, probably a good idea to get his death printout.   

~  Lu