trying to find birth in dunedin *COMPLETED*

[karenoz]

Thanks Signalhill, i can see what you mean, none of them really fit with our james for him to be born from any time1860-77 hasnt left us much.

karen

[SignalHill]

I found this which has a slim chance of being related.   Could it be the family with James Barrowman HENDERSON in it ?

Otago Witness , Issue 2660, 8 March 1905, Page 37      
CASUALTIES.
 A man named John Henderson, aged 58 years, a carpenter, was killed at the Dunedin Railway Station on Monday.   Deceased, who had been employed in the railway service for about seven years, and who lived with his wife and three daughters at Rankeillor street, South Dunedin, was instructed by Mr Pearson, one of the foremen in the Works Department, to adjust and robed a buffer stop post in the northern carriage shed, and he "commenced the work of excavation on Saturday last. Yesterday morning he resumed the work, and guyed the post with ropes on the western side, but the same precaution does not appear to " have been taken on the opposite side, deceased, who was working alone, was evidently in the act of coming out of the excavated hole, when from some unexplained cause the heavy post and strut fell upon him on the guyed side, pinning him to thİ earth, and killing him, it is supposed, ii:stantly. Deceased was found at noon by a youth named Thomas White, a carriage cleaner, beneath the post, quite dead, the post lying across his shoulders and crushing his chest against the western embankment. Dr Gordon Macdonald, who was called in immediately after the discovery, attributed death to a crushed chest, and the body was removed to the morgue.

[karenoz]

hi signalhill,
that is a good fine and sounded really close to our guy, but i pretty sure he didnt leave the northland area,and if he did it would of being by himself.

thank you
karen

[SignalHill]

 Karen
I was thinking this could be John father of James but this John seems to have been married to an Isobella

Here is the Dunedin Cemetery record
Surname     HENDERSON
Forename    JOHN S
Age    45 Years
Gender    Male
Date of Death    6 Mar 1905
Place of Death    
Last Address    
Next of Kin    
Funeral Director    
Cemetery    PORT CHALMERS CEMETERY
Location    Block REG. Plot 325
Date of Burial    6 Mar 1905
Type    Burial
Date of Cremation    
Type of Service    
Ashes Disposal    
Notes    Original reference:- F19050306
The following burials are also in this Plot
HENDERSON ISOBELLA E 66 Years Burial 8 Feb 1928
HENDERSON JAMES ALEXANDER 5 Years Burial 10 Oct 1892
HENDERSON JOHN STRACHAN 5 Years Burial 21 Feb 1900

[Lucy2]

I found this which has a slim chance of being related.   Could it be the family with James Barrowman HENDERSON in it ?

Otago Witness , Issue 2660, 8 March 1905, Page 37      
CASUALTIES.
A man named John Henderson, aged 58 years, a carpenter, was killed at the Dunedin Railway Station on Monday. ----  

Hi Karen

Have to say I'm puzzled as to why info is still being posted re: James Barrowman HENDERSON.        Ah, well.  

The John HENDERSON mentioned in the above article was in fact aged only 45 years.  (The newspaper has made an error with his age - and there are pages missing for the "Otago Witness" 8 March 1905 so unable to find a death notice.)

However, he was John Strachan HENDERSON (d. Monday, 6 March 1905) --- married to Isabella (Isobella) Eleanor PEEBLES 1884 --- buried with her and two sons at Dunedin.  There were also 3 daughters as mentioned in the article.
His approx. year of birth - 1860 - is also confirmed through an online marriage record.

Again, not who you're looking for.

~  Lu

[Lucy2]

A Probate OR Letters of Administration file at Archives NZ (Dunedin), records that James Strachan HENDERSON was Ships Carpenter resident at Port Chalmers.

[Lucy2]

Hi Karen

I think I've probably mentioned this before on the thread (but I'm too busy to search for it). 

It would be worthwhile requesting (on this board), a look-up for the Intention to Marry (ITM) notice, for Lilly Jane's and James' 1897 marriage.   (These are held at Archives NZ, Wellington - your request needs to include date and place of marriage).

The ITM will (should) confirm, how long James HENDERSON had lived in the district where he and Lilly married.

[The info may just give another clue - especially if he had lived in the district for years (rather than weeks/months). ]

~   Lu


 

[SignalHill]

Hi Lu

Seems James Barrowman HENDERSON has been eliminated

Therefore if something is found which connects with JBH definitely then its not our man

Thus ref to JBH is a way of excluding new possibilities

But if a new lead does nor connection with JBH it is still live

We are looking for Johns & Jameses and Janes who are not connected with JBH

[SignalHill]

Here are listings from the Otago Nominal Index - mostly property holders who are  on the Electoral Roll got HR (NZ Parliament) also early directories and Police Gazette.   No results have appeared for the Otago Provincial Electoral Roll   

The info format is a bit muddly as it has been lifted from a spreadsheet

Does this connect any dots or eliminate any johns still on other lists as possibilities ?
                     
Surname   Forename   Address      Event Place   Date         
HENDERSON   John   Castle st      Dunedin   1865   Carpenter   Harnetts Directory   
HENDERSON   John   Castle st      Dunedin & Suburbs & Districts   1865      Wises Directory   
HENDERSON   John   Castle st      Dunedin   1866   Carpenter   Harnetts Directory   
HENDERSON   John   Castle st      Dunedin & Suburbs & Districts   1866      Wises Directory   
HENDERSON   John   Dowling st      Dunedin & Suburbs & Districts   1870-71   Bootcloser   Wises Directory   
HENDERSON   John William Henry   Dunedin   Residential Canongate   City of Dunedin Electorate   1893   Carpenter   HR Roll   
HENDERSON   John   Dunedin   Residential George St   City of Dunedin Electorate   1893   Bootcloser   HR Roll   
HENDERSON   John   Dunedin   Household Castle St House   City of Dunedin Electorate   1877-78      HR Roll   
HENDERSON   John   Dunedin   Freehold pt sec 5 Blk II Nth Harb & Blueskin SD   Port Chalmers   1877-78      HR Roll   
HENDERSON   John   Dunedin   Household Castle St House   City of Dunedin   1878-79      HR Roll   
HENDERSON   John   Kensington      Dunedin & Suburbs & Districts   1867      Wises Directory   
HENDERSON   John   Kensington      Dunedin & Suburbs & Districts   1868      Wises Directory   
HENDERSON   John   Kensington   Freehold Kensington house & qr acr section   Caversham   1877-78      HR Roll   
HENDERSON   John   Kensington   Freehold Kensington house & qr acr section   Caversham Electorate   1878-79      HR Roll   
HENDERSON   John   Maori hill   Household Maori Hill House   Roslyn   1877-78      HR Roll   
HENDERSON   John   Maori hill   Household Maori Hill House   Roslyn Electorate   1878-79      HR Roll   
HENDERSON   John   Mornington   Freehold Belleknowes  Sec 7 Blk I   City of Dunedin Electorate   1893      HR Roll   
HENDERSON   John   Mornington   Freehold Mornington stone building house and garden   Roslyn   1877-78      HR Roll   
HENDERSON   John   Mornington   Freehold Sec 7 Blk IV   City of Dunedin   1878-79      HR Roll   
HENDERSON   John   Mornington   Freehold Mornington stone building house and garden   Roslyn Electorate   1878-79      HR Roll   
HENDERSON   John   North Harbour   freehold; North Harbour and Blueskin, section 35, block 6    Port Chalmers   1877-78      HR Roll   
HENDERSON   John   Pine hill   freehold; Pine hill, block 11, 10 acres    Roslyn   1877-78      HR Roll   
HENDERSON   John   Pine hill   freehold; Pine hill, block 11, 10 acres    Roslyn Electorate   1878-79      HR Roll   
HENDERSON   John   Port Chalmers   freehold; house and 1/4-acre, Kensington    City of Dunedin Electorate   1893   Gardener   HR Roll   
HENDERSON   John   Port Chalmers   freehold; part of section 59, block 23, Dunedin    City of Dunedin Electorate   1893   Shipwright   HR Roll   
HENDERSON   John   Queen st      Dunedin   1865      Harnetts Directory   
HENDERSON   John   Queen st      Dunedin & Suburbs & Districts   1865      Wises Directory   
HENDERSON   John   Queen st      Dunedin & Suburbs & Districts   1867      Wises Directory   
HENDERSON   John   St Kilda   freehold; St Kilda, sections 1, 2, 3, block 37    Caversham   1877-78      HR Roll   
HENDERSON   John   St Kilda   freehold; St Kilda, sections 1, 2, 3, block 57    Caversham Electorate   1878-79      HR Roll   
HENDERSON   John   Invercargill   Criminal offender; discharged from gaol       01/09/73   Clerk   Police Gazette 1873    Native of Scotland; 6 weeks' labor; vagrancy; tried 16 Jul 1873 Invercargill;