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Re: trying to find birth in dunedin
« Reply #54 on: Tuesday 16 February 10 07:46 GMT (UK) »

This is in your timeframe but doesn't give much detail.  Patutahi is backcounrty 12.5 km NW of Gisborne

Poverty Bay Herald, Volume XXVIII, Issue 9269, 5 October 1901, Page 2   
Poverty Bay Herald. GISBORNE, SATURDAY OCT. 5. 1901. PUBLISHED EVERY EVENING.

   .... inquest on the body of the late James Henderson,


Hi Karen

The above death relates to a   ....

"James Conrad Patrick HENDERSON" - died 4 October 1901 - aged 45 years  ...  born circa 1856.   

So not  your man.   ::)

~  Lu

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Re: trying to find birth in dunedin
« Reply #55 on: Tuesday 16 February 10 07:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi Karen

DEATHS -  James HENDERSON

There were 23 "hits" for deaths for persons named James HENDERSON (or James + second christian name) - between 1903 and 25 May 1916 (when Lilly Jane remarried).

After some "fluffin' around"  :D , I've been able to eliminate a good many - but this was based on the supposition that your James HENDERSON was born somewhere between 1865 and 1877.

That then leaves  > >

1916 / 3309 - HENDERSON - James - 50 years (bc 1866)
[Death reg'd. in Christchurch - can't find cemetery record].

1916 / 1168 - HENDERSON - James - (about) 39 years (bc 1877)
[Buried at Napier - occupation:  joiner]


ALSO  ... this one (but born circa 1863) ??

1912 / 2180 - HENDERSON - James - 49 years
[Death reg'd.  at Christchurch]

Could find only two who died in Auckland area (they were too old) ... and there were no deaths in the time frame, registered north of Auckland (e.g. Dargarville  etc. ) :

 ???

But anyway  ... see next post.   :D

~  Lu


DEATHS - James HENDERSON

You might like to consider this one ?    ;D

Burial is at Christchurch - cemetery record states "born Scotland" ??   

However, occupation is listed as "forester" ?
[Somewhere I seem to remember you saying that "James possibly died about 1905 ... in a bush accident".   Forester / bush accident  ??? ]

http://librarydata.christchurch.org.nz/Cemeteries/

HENDERSON - James 
Died :   1 October 1905
Age:   35 years (bc 1970)

Born :   Scotland

[Always possible that info provided by informant to death, is not strictly correct. ]



Hi Karen

I spent considerable time going through the death index and eliminating many of the James HENDERSON deaths.

So ... just offering the above again, for your re-consideration.   :)

~  Lu

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Re: trying to find birth in dunedin
« Reply #56 on: Wednesday 17 February 10 21:36 GMT (UK) »
hi Lu, Boy this is madding trying to find james death. you done everything, thanks.

but i think this one
 HENDERSON - James
Died :   1 October 1905
Age:   35 years (bc 1970)
Born :   Scotland

is the one my relative has already got and found it to be the wrong one, she says this guy died of TB age 35yrs

 ??? not sure where to look, still waiting to hear back on school records, hoping that way i might find a lead to weather john and jane had more children, think this is the only way i may find any answers.

very grateful for ALL the help
karen
McInnes,Weir,Glass,Low,Bolton,Fuller,Hamilton,walker,Henderson,McKirdy,Thomson,cammock,Durham,Kelly,Andersen,Bartlet,Bottomley,Vercoe,Chiene,Quinn,

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Re: trying to find birth in dunedin
« Reply #57 on: Wednesday 17 February 10 22:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi Karen   :)

"Maddening" is an understatement.  :D   :D

It's driving me "bonkers" too  ... but I'm still nibbling away, hoping for an outcome for you.   :)

Next move ?

*    Have any of your rellies got the certificate (printout) for Lilly Jane's  2nd marriage in 1916 ???

There's always a chance that the date she was widowed, is on that record ?

~   Lu



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Re: trying to find birth in dunedin
« Reply #58 on: Wednesday 17 February 10 23:11 GMT (UK) »
hi Lu, i am here looking at the marragie C of eileen henderson 1916 20.dec and on it has her mother lily jane vercoe,formerly henderson,now devin. i know she married devin in 1916

father down as james henderson labourer.( now i thought they would of put deceased beside that?) hmm

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Re: trying to find birth in dunedin
« Reply #59 on: Wednesday 17 February 10 23:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi Karen

Yeah  ... unfortunately NZ certs. (not helpful like OZ ones) ... didn't record info as to whether a parent was deceased.   :(

OK  ... next move.   :D  :D

*   The maiden name of James HENDERSON's mother, should be recorded on his 1897 marriage record to Lilly Jane.

Can you tell me what the maiden name is please ?

~  Lu

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Re: trying to find birth in dunedin
« Reply #60 on: Thursday 18 February 10 04:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lu, not sure where my relative found out his mother was jane Hall i think from james marriage C.

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Re: trying to find birth in dunedin
« Reply #61 on: Thursday 18 February 10 06:23 GMT (UK) »
Doh !   I'm stupid !   :-[

Should practice what I preach  ... and read back through the thread.  :D

Yes,  Jane - nee HALL - it's right there at beginning of the thread.
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It's so difficult to try and locate the parents, John and Jane HENDERSON.   

I've already searched the 1881 Electoral CD for John HENDERSON ... to no avail.    And 1893 CD also for John and Jane.

Both could have been deceased by either of those dates.   ???

I'll try a search of the early Dunedin directories for John  ... occupation "Carter".     [Of course that may not have been his occupation back in the 1860's  ... many chaps changed their occupations over the years as they acquired more wealth. ? ]

~   Lu



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Re: trying to find birth in dunedin
« Reply #62 on: Friday 19 February 10 03:01 GMT (UK) »
Found OBHS Register - I think it only helps in a negative way
Dates are entrance year - around age 13
Let me know if you want any details from the body Most entries provide a "current" address and occupation also date and place of death where known
These are all the Hendersons up to 1938

Otago Boys' High School 
Old Boy's Register  1863 - 1938 inclusive
Published Dunedin 1953
Index P 342 column 1       (scanned with quick check)

  Hende. Keith B.      1942
  Henderson, Allan           1923
  Henderson, Allen J. M.   1931
  Henderson, Angus     1903
  Henderson, Art. J.           1915
  Henderson, Bruce K.   1931
  Henderson, Chas. S.   1928
  Henderson, C. B.           1929
  Henderson, C. S.           1933
  Henderson, David R.   1926
  Henderson, Eric C.           1924
  Henderson, F. McG.   1917
  Henderson, Fred. C.   1924
  Henderson: Fred. I.   1944
  Henderson, Geo.           1934
  Henderson, Geo. A.   1917
  Henderson, Geo. A.   1884
  Henderson, Graeme   1943
  Henderson, Herbt.           1891
  Henderson, Hunter,   1898
  Henderson, Hugh R.   1916
  Henderson, Hugh W.   1934
  Henderson, Ian A.          1938
  Henderson, Jas.       1863
  Henderson, Jas.      1902
  Henderson, Jas. A.           1916
  Henderson, Jas. G.           1927
  Henderson, Jno.      1894
  Henderson, Jno. H.     1947
  Henderson, Jno. R.    1924
  Henderson, Jno. S.    1906
  Henderson, Jos. W.   1924
  Henderson, Kevin H.   1946
  Henderson, M. C.      1887
  Henderson, M. R.       1932
  Henderson, N. D.       1926
  Henderson, Robt. B.   1912
  Henderson, Robt. H.   1917
  Henderson, Robt. R.   1926
  Henderson, Ross S.   1941
  Henderson, Wm.       1863
  Henderson, Wm.           1879
  Henderson, Wm. E.   1926
  Henderson, Wm. J.    1891
  Henderson, Wm. J.           1915
  Hendra, Henry N.           1926
Calvert Dobson Metcalfe;  Otago, Yorkshire
Johns Blewett;   Bendigo, Cornwall
Turnbull Hempseed Matheson;  Otago, Bendigo, Lothian
Butterfield;   NZ, Yorkshire
Brewer Tothill;   NZ, Gloucester London
Klee;   Canterbury, London, Hanover
Cutler;   Fordingbridge Hampshire
Hill ;  Taranaki
Gordon Dunn;   Otaki Wellington
Anderson;   Canterbury Tyrone