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Re: trying to find birth in dunedin
« Reply #45 on: Monday 15 February 10 20:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi Karen
csv is not acceptable either so will try to see what can be done in txt
Calvert Dobson Metcalfe;  Otago, Yorkshire
Johns Blewett;   Bendigo, Cornwall
Turnbull Hempseed Matheson;  Otago, Bendigo, Lothian
Butterfield;   NZ, Yorkshire
Brewer Tothill;   NZ, Gloucester London
Klee;   Canterbury, London, Hanover
Cutler;   Fordingbridge Hampshire
Hill ;  Taranaki
Gordon Dunn;   Otaki Wellington
Anderson;   Canterbury Tyrone

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Re: trying to find birth in dunedin
« Reply #46 on: Monday 15 February 10 20:45 GMT (UK) »


Nah, nah   ... I don't think the "James Barrowman" one is yours.   ;)     [I'm sure your one is just "plain" James HENDERSON - no middle name). 

Had just posted the info re: Thomas Herbert / Thompson Herbert" to show that they were two different people and that Thompson Herbert HENDERSON although buried in the area where your James lived, was less likely to be a son of "a John and Jane HENDERSON":

But don't splash out on buying any printouts (certs.) just yet.    :D

I'll check the death microfiche also (for place of registration) - have narrowed deaths down to a handful of likelies.








Found this on paperspast
Otago Witness , Issue 458, 8 September 1860,  Page 4    Article view

Shipping News.
Early in June [], the Henrietta and Robert Henderson, [was] despatched from the Clyde by the agents of the Provincial Government of Otago, with full complements of passengers.   Besides those assisted by the agents, a large number not only paid their own passages, but took out with them considerable sums of money.
ARRIVALS.
3 Sept 1860    Arrived in Dunedin from Glasgow aboard the Henrietta & Robert Henderson
..............John Barrowman and wife........... William Henderson, Agnes Henderson,..............John Henderson and wife
DEATHS [on Board]........ June 26, Ann Henderson aged 20 years, of scarlatina...........
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this then could be maybe a cousin or brothers that came out together,do you think?
karen
McInnes,Weir,Glass,Low,Bolton,Fuller,Hamilton,walker,Henderson,McKirdy,Thomson,cammock,Durham,Kelly,Andersen,Bartlet,Bottomley,Vercoe,Chiene,Quinn,

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Re: trying to find birth in dunedin
« Reply #47 on: Monday 15 February 10 21:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi Karen
Struggling with conversion of spreadsheet

There are lots of Hendersons in Otago and James & Johns are common too

If James Barrowman Henderson is yours, then  it is odds on that he is related to the Barrowmans on the Henrietta & Robert Henderson
Calvert Dobson Metcalfe;  Otago, Yorkshire
Johns Blewett;   Bendigo, Cornwall
Turnbull Hempseed Matheson;  Otago, Bendigo, Lothian
Butterfield;   NZ, Yorkshire
Brewer Tothill;   NZ, Gloucester London
Klee;   Canterbury, London, Hanover
Cutler;   Fordingbridge Hampshire
Hill ;  Taranaki
Gordon Dunn;   Otaki Wellington
Anderson;   Canterbury Tyrone

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Re: trying to find birth in dunedin
« Reply #48 on: Monday 15 February 10 21:33 GMT (UK) »
hi, no i dont think he is,but as you have his father john barrowman henderson down in the passenger list i wander if they are related to my john and jane henderson lot.
karen
McInnes,Weir,Glass,Low,Bolton,Fuller,Hamilton,walker,Henderson,McKirdy,Thomson,cammock,Durham,Kelly,Andersen,Bartlet,Bottomley,Vercoe,Chiene,Quinn,


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Re: trying to find birth in dunedin
« Reply #49 on: Monday 15 February 10 22:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi Karen
John Henderson & John Barrowman are 2 separate passengers

There is also a Jane Barrowman married in NZ in 1863 to ?

Just looking at the Barrowman family as it is a lot more identifiable than Henderson.   

Your James Henderson could easily not have used the Barrowman name most of his places but equally could have been plain James and not connected at all with the John and Jane Henderson family with the J B in it

The evidence does point to James Barrowman Henderson as having been born in Dunedin.

Besides the three (+?) John Hendersons in Dunedin there are at least 3 others in Otago Farming one North and one or two South of Dunedin and one on the Goldfields at Skippers (Queenstown - Arrowtown area)
Calvert Dobson Metcalfe;  Otago, Yorkshire
Johns Blewett;   Bendigo, Cornwall
Turnbull Hempseed Matheson;  Otago, Bendigo, Lothian
Butterfield;   NZ, Yorkshire
Brewer Tothill;   NZ, Gloucester London
Klee;   Canterbury, London, Hanover
Cutler;   Fordingbridge Hampshire
Hill ;  Taranaki
Gordon Dunn;   Otaki Wellington
Anderson;   Canterbury Tyrone

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Re: trying to find birth in dunedin
« Reply #50 on: Monday 15 February 10 22:17 GMT (UK) »
hi, ok it was just a hope ,that they may have being with the family's of hendersons all came out on the same ship,but you see no connection.

no i dont think they where farmers as its down john henderson was a carter,and son james was a labour,but we where lead to believe he work in the bush,thus him dieing of a bush accident 1900s-1906

thanks, i know this one is a bit of a head ache.
karen
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Re: trying to find birth in dunedin
« Reply #51 on: Monday 15 February 10 23:46 GMT (UK) »

There is also a Jane Barrowman married in NZ in 1863 to ?

Just looking at the Barrowman family as it is a lot more identifiable than Henderson.   

Your James Henderson could easily not have used the Barrowman name most of his places but equally could have been plain James and not connected at all with the John and Jane Henderson family with the J B in it

The evidence does point to James Barrowman Henderson as having been born in Dunedin.


Hi SignalHill

  ... and welcome.   :)


If you look back further in this thread (page 1 - page 2 ?) you'll see that "James Barrowman HENDERSON" has already been eliminated from this search.   He was born 1879 and died in 1948.    [Karen is seeking a James HENDERSON who died before 1916.]

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Re: trying to find birth in dunedin
« Reply #52 on: Tuesday 16 February 10 01:19 GMT (UK) »

sorry i am still waiting to hear back on james marriage, from the relative who has it.


Hi Karen

Did you ever get the information from this marriage cert. ?

*   What was the maiden name of James' mother ?

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Re: trying to find birth in dunedin
« Reply #53 on: Tuesday 16 February 10 05:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi Karen,
Looked for accidents / Deaths on papers past

This is in your timeframe but doesn't give much detail.   Usually would find it in several papers but have only found it in one.   Presumably the verdict "death by accident" or some such was given as quicly and uncotrovesially as the jury were called together.   Patutahi is backcounrty 12.5 km NW of Gisborne

Poverty Bay Herald, Volume XXVIII, Issue 9269, 5 October 1901, Page 2   
Poverty Bay Herald. GISBORNE, SATURDAY OCT. 5. 1901. PUBLISHED EVERY EVENING.
When Mr W. A. Barton, Coroner, and Sergeant Siddells arrived at Patutahi yesterday afternoon to conduct the inquest on the body of the late James Henderson, they were enabled to proceed with their duties at once.
Constable Farmer, in whose district the sad occurrence took place, deserves every credit for the expeditious manuer in which he obtained evidence as to the manner of death and prepared for the inquest in the afternoon. The jury had been requisitioned, and the body having been taken to a central place, the. Patutahi Hotel, not the slightest delay was occasioned on the arrival of the Coroner.  The inquiry commenced soon after 3 p.m., although the police were, not informed of the sad event till about 10 o'clock that morning.
Calvert Dobson Metcalfe;  Otago, Yorkshire
Johns Blewett;   Bendigo, Cornwall
Turnbull Hempseed Matheson;  Otago, Bendigo, Lothian
Butterfield;   NZ, Yorkshire
Brewer Tothill;   NZ, Gloucester London
Klee;   Canterbury, London, Hanover
Cutler;   Fordingbridge Hampshire
Hill ;  Taranaki
Gordon Dunn;   Otaki Wellington
Anderson;   Canterbury Tyrone