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British Subject b Italy c 1828, Louis / Lewis Formby.
« on: Wednesday 06 January 10 22:30 GMT (UK) »
 I have this person in all Census from 1851 to 1891. Born Italy BS.
He  is living in Liverpool / Formby area.

Marriages Jun 1848   West Derby 
Lewis Formby / Margery Sawyer,   

Family Search 1881 Census.
Louis FORMBY b 1828 . BS British subject . b Italy
Death 10 July 1899 Formby

In all census he was just an Ag lab or farm servant, so how was he born in Italy. Why would his father have been there at that time.

IGI has Formbys born in Formby going back to 17th c. but until I get past Lewis / Louis I can go no further.

 Thanks.
Annette
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Re: British Subject b Italy c 1828, Louis / Lewis Formby.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 06 January 10 22:35 GMT (UK) »
Somebody else posted about this man about 2yrs ago

An Italian ship was wrecked in Formby but  this baby survived and was taken in by a local family and given the surname Formby

If you use the Search facility on Rootschat you will find the old post
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Re: British Subject b Italy c 1828, Louis / Lewis Formby.
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 06 January 10 22:38 GMT (UK) »
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Re: British Subject b Italy c 1828, Louis / Lewis Formby.
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 06 January 10 22:40 GMT (UK) »
This is the one

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,270477.0.html

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Hi Carole and Pam,

Congratulations! in just a few short hours while I was out this afternoon you have confirmed a family legend from over 175 years ago.......The Baby on the Beach.........curious?

Let me enlighten you.

In the early 18th century an Italian ship left the port of Liverpool and was wrecked in Liverpool bay in a terrible storm There were no survivors. The following morning a person walking on Formby beach came across a tiny baby boy lying on the sand. A local family took pity on the orphaned infant and brought him up as their own, giving him the surname Formby, the place where he was found. He grew up a fine, dark haired young man and married a local girl, passing his name and complexion on to his children. We had no record of his christian name nor the family that took him in, just the story passed down.

I wonder where the name Lewis came from? perhaps the name of the person who found him? Is there an entry for him in 1841 before he married?

Thanks so much,

Sue
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Re: British Subject b Italy c 1828, Louis / Lewis Formby.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 06 January 10 23:05 GMT (UK) »
WOW, how interesting. :o
This is the famiy I started with, Margaret   the sister in law eventually married  W.Derby March Q 1883 8b.686
Richard TAYLOR and  Margaret FORMBY .

It seems that Lewis Formby was the father of  Margery, Margaret and Mary.

Richard was the son of Samuel Taylor and the brother of my direct ancestor John Taylor.

1851 HO107; Piece: 2503; Folio: 691; Page: 27
Nant
Thomas Taylor 41 Stonemason b Wrexham
Elizabeth 43 b Ruthin ? ( Derwen)
Carolin 11 errand girl b Wrexham
Richard 8 b “Samuel 5 b “
Elizabeth 2 b “

1881 RG11; Piece: 3746; Folio: 154; Page: 8;
56 Liverpool Rd, Formby.
Thomas Rimmer 22 ag lab b Ainsdale
Marjery Rimmer 20 wife "
Alice Rimmer 1 dau "
Margaret Formby 27 sister in law washerwoman , un married. "
Marjery E. Formby 3 neice Ainsdale, Lancashire,


1901 RG13; Piece: 5219; Folio: 109; Page: 29
21 Penygelli Rd.
Richard Taylor 51 free stone mason b Coedpoeth c 1850
Margaret 45 b Ainsdale
Margery 20 “

Elizabeth 17 b Birkdale
Thomas 15 collier b Ainsdale
Richard 11 b Coedpoeth
Maggie 8 b Coedpoeth
Beatrice 2 b Coedpoeth.


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Re: British Subject b Italy c 1828, Louis / Lewis Formby.
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 06 January 10 23:11 GMT (UK) »
Sue hasn't been online at Rootschat since November but I have sent her a pm with the link to this post
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Re: British Subject b Italy c 1828, Louis / Lewis Formby.
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 07 January 10 07:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi this search is not for me i was trying to find out about Carl Henry Bongartz on the 1901 cencurs name spelt Karl Bonkartz german spelling trying to find where they were before 9 Churton Street Totenfields westminster. He was born in Luebeck germany in 1887 in the january, he was married to my grandma in march qtr 1910 at croyden. But trying to find out when they got to england. On his death cert which he is burried in norfolk is got name as carl henry bongartz otherwise Johann Weilhelm bongartz his last name might also be spelt bongarty . So will be most grateful.
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Re: British Subject b Italy c 1828, Louis / Lewis Formby.
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 07 January 10 09:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi Annette, thanks Carole for notifying me about the post. 

I'm afraid I have nothing much to add to the information you already have. I can see that Margaret must have gone to work in Liverpool and met Richard as they were married in West Derby (district of Liverpool) in March quarter 1883 - actually in St Mary's Walton. There would have been plenty of work for a stone mason in Liverpool at that time.

I can't find the birth or baptism of Elizabeth born in Birkdale but I have found Thomas:

Baptism: 21 Jun 1885 St John, Ainsdale, Lancashire, England
Thomas Taylor - Child of Richard Taylor & Margaret
    Born: 3 Jun 1885
    Abode: Mill Lane
    Occupation: Mason
POWELL - Liverpool and Wirral
ADAIR - Liverpool and Ireland
BAUGH - Shropshire, Staffordshire and Yorkshire
WILKINSON - Staffordshire

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Re: British Subject b Italy c 1828, Louis / Lewis Formby.
« Reply #8 on: Friday 08 January 10 14:18 GMT (UK) »
Richard and Margarets headstone. Elizabeth Taylor is Richards mother.
They are buried in Wern Chaplel gravyard , near Minera, Wrexham.
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