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William Mc donald Scotlandspeople mistake?
« on: Sunday 03 January 10 11:23 GMT (UK) »
Have found previously unknown oldest sibling of my grandmother.  William Mc Donald, died 27 April 1858 at 144 Garngad Road Glasgow.  Definitely correct child/family, but there is  a mystery.  He died of "Pneumonia, 1 month".. but in the "Age" column, it says "1 month".  Impossibility, because his next sibling James Mc Donald is born 5 August 1858 - only 5 months after supposed birth of William? 

So, have now searched for birth of William, between 1855 and 1857 (parents Arthur McDonald and Julia Maloney married 1855 in Airdrie).  Not finding it at all easily, very common name, and not sure of birth place.  Not appearing in the most obvious areas.

Second mystery - William's death informant is not the mother, father or obvious relative, - rather it says "John ?Nichol" then what appears to be "inmate - present"....  Inmate to me means asylum or poor house - Anyone got any ideas on this? 

Will try to attach relevant part of death entry - am I misreading it? First attachment i have posted so here goes.
McNab, Kenney, Johnstone, Carrigan, (Cargan, Kirgan, Corrigan), Toll, Tracey, McNulty,  Reilly, Maguire, Loughlin, Banks, McGonagle, Forsyth, McDonald, Michael,  Kennedy, Bagnell, Cronan, Dunleavy, McMullan. -  Glasgow, Ireland, British Columbia Canada, Manchester New Hampshire USA.

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Re: William Mc donald Scotlandspeople mistake?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 03 January 10 11:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi

The IGI (extracted) has him born 22 Dec 1855, Old Monkland.

I think the 1 month refers to the length of time he'd had pneumonia - if you look it says 1 month in that col as well. A mistake by the informant, I'd say.



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Re: William Mc donald Scotlandspeople mistake?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 03 January 10 11:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gadget.

Wow, that has to be the quickest reply ever !!   Thanks a million for that - have been tying myself in knots over this one...  will check out birth again with scotlandspeople, now.... looking good.... Thanks again.
McNab, Kenney, Johnstone, Carrigan, (Cargan, Kirgan, Corrigan), Toll, Tracey, McNulty,  Reilly, Maguire, Loughlin, Banks, McGonagle, Forsyth, McDonald, Michael,  Kennedy, Bagnell, Cronan, Dunleavy, McMullan. -  Glasgow, Ireland, British Columbia Canada, Manchester New Hampshire USA.

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Re: William Mc donald Scotlandspeople mistake?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 04 January 10 00:22 GMT (UK) »
What address was James born at?


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Re: William Mc donald Scotlandspeople mistake?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 04 January 10 09:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sancti,

The young brother James was born at "153 Garngad Road, Glasgow"  on 5th August 1858.   

William, the older one  we now know was born on 22 December 1855 at "Calder Bank ....." and two words I can't read - looks likes  ----- forge? .... but William died at "144 Garngad Road Glasgow" on 27 April 1858....   I have tried to do a Google search on 144 Garngad road, but no relevant results.

It seems that in Glasgow a family could live at various addresses within the same road (tenements?) over a period of years... not uncommon.
McNab, Kenney, Johnstone, Carrigan, (Cargan, Kirgan, Corrigan), Toll, Tracey, McNulty,  Reilly, Maguire, Loughlin, Banks, McGonagle, Forsyth, McDonald, Michael,  Kennedy, Bagnell, Cronan, Dunleavy, McMullan. -  Glasgow, Ireland, British Columbia Canada, Manchester New Hampshire USA.

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Re: William Mc donald Scotlandspeople mistake?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 04 January 10 11:12 GMT (UK) »
You are probably right, I originally thought that the death address was possibly a hospital due to the cause of death and the signatory being described as 'inmate' but it is probably a neighbour in the same tenement.

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Re: William Mc donald Scotlandspeople mistake?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 04 January 10 11:15 GMT (UK) »
Calderbank is an area on the outskirts of Airdrie

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Re: William Mc donald Scotlandspeople mistake?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 04 January 10 11:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sancti,

thanks very much for that information.... I am learning that my geographical knowledge of Glasgow isn't as good as I used to think lol.  I still find it amazing that the informant of William's death was not a family member - and it was registered just the day after death...  Maybe just pure coincidence that the "neighbour"? was registering someone else's demise - and did both at the one time???

I have also noticed that there was a 7 year period between two later siblings - Arthur McDonald born 1863 and Julia born 1870.... too much to think there were other babies within those years? Why does it always fall between census years?  Any quick way of doing a search - no name? no year of birth? With a name like Mc Donald, could be searching well into the next century lol...

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McNab, Kenney, Johnstone, Carrigan, (Cargan, Kirgan, Corrigan), Toll, Tracey, McNulty,  Reilly, Maguire, Loughlin, Banks, McGonagle, Forsyth, McDonald, Michael,  Kennedy, Bagnell, Cronan, Dunleavy, McMullan. -  Glasgow, Ireland, British Columbia Canada, Manchester New Hampshire USA.

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Re: William Mc donald Scotlandspeople mistake?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 04 January 10 11:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi

As these births were before 1875, there's a good chance that they'll be on the IGI.

Just go to family search and put in the parents names, and location and you should get the full listing of their children.


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