GILPIN family Seagoe Armagh Ireland

[Macka]

Hello Davey, help is much appreciated. Are u in Armagh to have access to church records.Lucky u.
Can we start at the beginning? First in your list u have Dynes marrying Jane. Is this a dynes Gilpin or a surname Dynes?
William Gilpin marries  Eliza Jane Dynes in 1856 and has the 4 children jane richard elizabeth and james.

U say Richard 1773 marries an Elizabeth  and their son Richard 1822 marries Deborah Robinson (these are my gg Grandparents) and their son Richard is a twin to Samuel and born in 1864.
There I have a problem. My Richard (G Grandfather came to Australia and on his death cert in 1923 shows his birth in 1850. Family records show 4/4/1850.
Could the twin be another name and not Richard? It is said Richard G 1850 stayed in Ireland until age 18 and then went to Scotland and then later on to Australia..
Hope u don't mind all the question (probably sorry u ventured your help) but want to get it right.Really appreciate your time and help
Macka

[Dav]

Hi Macca
Have been meaning to reply to your message for some time
I am researching the Somerville line but I may have some info of interest to you

Youngson Somerville married 12/07/1886 at Moira Methodist Church to Elizabeth Emmerson both were over the age of 21 a widower and widow Youngson's father Percy ( really Pierce ) and Elizabeth's father was Richard Gilpin both father's occupations said Weavers, witness's were William George Hawkins and Elizabeth Jane Aspital.

Youngson had 3 children that I know of to his first wife Elizabeth Dynes namely William b 1856 Stephen b 1863 and Elizabeth b 1867

Is there any indication when Thos. Emmerson and Elizabeth Dynes died?

I don't know when Thomas Emmerson died but Elizabeth Dynes must have died sometime between 1868 and 1886.

My grandmother filled in Eliz Somervilles death details, now I play the whatif game. Whatif she did marry at 22 (as stated on cert) and that was to Emmerson and then Somerville later. Maybe that was the only one my Granny knew about.

If somerville died in 1907 and She came to Australia in June 1908 that wud fit in. Don't know where Canade comes into the equation. Maybe a family furphey.

There still may be something in the Canada story as Youngson's eldest son William went to Canada and married there in 1885 to a Fanny Rankin, also Youngson had a elder brother called Sloan, Sloan had a daughter called Mary who married a John Tremaine in 1873 in Canada.
So Youngson may have went to Canada at sometime, but he must have returned to Ireland, Youngson's other two children namely Stephen and Elizabeth ended up in Australia, Stephen dying in Melbourne in 1943 and Elizabeth d 1904.
Hope this is of some help
Dav

ps was you grandmother a daughter of Youngson Somerville and Elizabeth Gilpin?