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Re: Request for Help. John GALVIN 1852 Melbourne Victoria
« Reply #9 on: Friday 01 January 10 08:03 GMT (UK) »
Hello checking the birth rego as R usually means a duplicate registration:

I found as Daizi did:
Charles Frederick Galvin parents John Galvin and MAry McNichol #11967R 1860 St Kilda
then:
Charles Frederick McNichol mother MAry McNichol #11967R 1860 St Kilda
and more strangely:
Charles Frederick MORRISON mother Mary McNicholl #11967R 1860 St Kilda

So some good reasons for perhaps purchsing at least on if not all of these certificates ::)

good luck

Robyn


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Re: Request for Help. John GALVIN 1852 Melbourne Victoria
« Reply #10 on: Friday 01 January 10 08:20 GMT (UK) »
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5777413?searchTerm=Galvin+John
posted by Jenn, announces the funeral at Melbourne General Cemetery 9 Sep 1867 for the wife of John GALVIN - Annie GALVIN aged 30 years.

http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5778768?searchTerm=galvin+%2B+john
Funeral notice for John GALVIN.

The Wills Index at PROV has date of death 22 Sep 1867, the burial record at St Kilda Cemetery has the date of service 23 Sep 1967, funeral notice 24th Sep 1967, and the MI states he died 26 Sep 1867.

Jenn your link to PROV Wills Index does not appear to be working...well for me.

Wills Index Search
http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=54

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Re: Request for Help. John GALVIN 1852 Melbourne Victoria
« Reply #11 on: Friday 01 January 10 14:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi Galvin,
 
I see from your tree that you think he was from Co Kerry in Ireland, try this link, there are a few marriages and babtisms on there that may help.

http://irishgenealogy.ie/

mum mum

A copy of the 1860 birth cert for Charles is also there - putative father John Galvin, General Dealer, 37, born London, England, mother Mary Morrison, formerly McNichol, 27, born Glasgow, Scotland.  Parents not married.

Details on the death index appear to contradict John's place of birth, but I would believe the birth cert before anything else.  Perhaps his family was from Kerry, but he was born in London.

The "Severn" arrival in 1852 simply says John Galvin, aged 25, Clerk, English (out of a choice of English, Scottish or Irish) The age given on the online indexes is incorrect.

On a tangent - there is a marriage for a Mary McNichol (aged 20) and John Morrison (aged 28)  (extracted) at Paisley in Renfrewshire on 14 May 1852, and an immigration record for a couple by this name and with the same ages arriving at Melbourne on the "Wanata" in Oct 1852.  Perhaps John Galvin and Mary did not marry because one of them was not free to do so.

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Re: Request for Help. John GALVIN 1852 Melbourne Victoria
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 02 January 10 00:52 GMT (UK) »
There is this birth in 1854.

MORRISON  Alfred John
Father John  Mother Mary MCNICOL
At Prahran  1854  Reg#3998

whom John GALVIN claims as his eldest son in his Will.

..........the benefit of my children Alfred John GALVIN, Ellen GALVIN, Alexander John GALVIN,  Herbert Adolphus GALVIN and Frederick Edward GALVIN.

Cando




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Re: Request for Help. John GALVIN 1852 Melbourne Victoria
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 02 January 10 00:58 GMT (UK) »
A BIG thankyou to you all for your help.  I do have a copy of the B&D for Charles Galvin and I do believe that the union between May and John was a little bit cloudy.  For this is the only child to have a registered birth and then to have the father stated as "putative" under his own signature.  And also to state the mother as Mary Morrison.  Latter death certs. show her as Galvin nee McNichol from Scotland
I think Debra has hit the nail on the head.  I could not find anything on Mary Morrison or a spouse.  
I have looked at the Rates Book @PROV for the house in Octavia St St Kilda (which by the way is pronounced as written - there is no saint) and it shows that the property changed from John Galvin to Mary Galvin after Johns death in 1867.  
My father worked with his father for 40 years and yet my father was told very little about his fathers family so it is possible that my grand father learnt from a young age not inquire about or talk about earlier generations, hence little was passed on.
It would be interesting to discover what became of John Morrison???
Thank you all again and have a wonderfull New Year
P.S. All this makes us apprreciate what a wonderfull time we live in

Just got your latest reply Cando....gosh.. the plot thickens
Australia - Galvin, Clear, Maggs, Kelland, McNichol
England - Clear, Maggs, Kelland
Scotland - McNichol

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Re: Request for Help. John GALVIN 1852 Melbourne Victoria
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 02 January 10 01:03 GMT (UK) »
I have been trawling the death records trying to match up a death for John MORRISON - hopefully his age at marriage was correct. 

Cheers
Cando
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Re: Request for Help. John GALVIN 1852 Melbourne Victoria
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 02 January 10 01:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cando
I have just tried BDM for that birth cert but it comes up a blank
Australia - Galvin, Clear, Maggs, Kelland, McNichol
England - Clear, Maggs, Kelland
Scotland - McNichol

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Re: Request for Help. John GALVIN 1852 Melbourne Victoria
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 02 January 10 01:24 GMT (UK) »
I am not sure what you mean by 'a blank'.

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Re: Request for Help. John GALVIN 1852 Melbourne Victoria
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 02 January 10 01:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi cando

I have finally found the birth certificate.   Thanks

Gosh ... it looks like our family has the wrong name.   Wow is that going to make a few surprises.....
The birth date is exactly that shown in the family bible written in his own hand.

Thanks so much for your help.  I have to sit down and ponder over all this again and look for the links to the other children.
Australia - Galvin, Clear, Maggs, Kelland, McNichol
England - Clear, Maggs, Kelland
Scotland - McNichol