GRANTHAM - Help please

[angelbaby69nz]

Have just checked the IGI - it seems that William Grantham born 1823 In Pillerton Priors was the son of another William & Sarah Grantham - as was Jeremiah father of George so it looks as though George & Hannah were first cousins on the Grantham side.

here are the older William & Sarah in 1851

from 1851 Pillerton Priors
 
William Grantham 57  born Warks Tysoe
Sarah Grantham 56 born Warks Tysoe
George Grantham 16  born P Priors
Hannah Satchwell 34  daughter born P Priors
George Satchwell 5 
Thomas Satchwell 11 
 

Debbie

Hi ya  )

Could someone please help me with a theory, further research has lead me to find that Hannah Satchwell was married to a Satchwell ( i cant find my notes for a first name) but he doesnt appear ont he above records....Was she a widower at this time..?

Cheers.
Tisha

[angelbaby69nz]

angelbaby,thanks very much for that info,however i am pretty sure her mother was Elizabeth Powell(my greatx2 grandmother) who married Thomas Grantham on 5th April 1844 at Eatington(now Ettington).I got this info from the parish records at Warwick record office.Mary Ann had 15 children the only name i have is Minnie Timmo born about 1883.Thanks again,colin.

I would really like to know where this Thomas fits into the picture....?  he cant be the one born in 1853...

[angelbaby69nz]

christened is another word for baptised - and it wasn't uncommon for brothers and sisters to be baptised at the same time if the parents had not had them done soon after birth which was the norm.

I am starting to find bits on the Alliborns - here is Mary Ann - listed as Ann from the 1841 census in Pillerton Hersey with her parants and siblings

from 1841
 John Allibone born 1791   
 Ann Allibone born 1801 
 William Allibone born 1821
 Ann Allibone born 1829
 George Allibone born 1831 
 Eliza Allibone born 1833   
 David Allibone born 1835   
 Emma Allibone born 1838 
 

Debbie

Jsut wondering if there would be any reocrds showing John Allibone/allabone parents, im wondering if Sarah Grantham nee allibone 's father, Thomas and John were brothers?  Not crucial but just a pondering thought.. )

[DebbieG]

Hi again   

I will try and answer the questions in order - in answer to post 63
In 1851 Hannah Satchwell is down as daughter married (not widowed) and marked in the side margin is visitor, the birthplace of the 2 children is Butlers Marston Warks

from 1841 - Butlers Marston Warwickshire
William Satchel abt 1816
Hannah Satchel abt 1817   
Thomas Satchel abt 1840   
 

from 1861 Rowington Warwickshire
William Satchwell 46  born Rowington Warks
Hannah Satchwell 45 
William Satchwell 9 
Henry Satchwell 1 

 

Debbie

[DebbieG]

In answer to post 64

Thomas Grantham who married Elizabeth according to the 1851 census for Pilerton Priors was born about 1820 in Pillerton Priors - I am fairly sure it would be the one baptised 26th November 1820 another son of 'your' William & Sarah Grantham whose marriage I gave you yesterday

As to post 65 - I am afraid that the most likly place to look to work out the parentage of Thomas & John Allibone is in the baptisms of Ettington parish - and not only are these not in the IGI for this period but I can't find that they have been transcribed and available for purchase, so I don't think I can do much on that - sorry

 

Debbie

[angelbaby69nz]

Hi Debbie,

thanks for that

So in conclusion, Hannah Satchwell and her children was visting her father and brother at the time of the census.

re: the baptisims at the parish.....how would i get this information? or is it i simply cant?

Cheers again for your help.
Tish

[DebbieG]

Tish - as far as I have been able to find out,  the registers and/or transcripts havn't been published for that time, so that leaves trying to order a film (if they have filmed them) through you local morman centre and viewing it there or as you are abroad making visiting Warwickshire Records Office where the originals are,   slightly expensive    you could pay a researcher to check them for you - you could try E-mailing the records office to see what they suggest,  though it is often cheaper to employ a private researcher than the record office fees for doing it - I have heard that Warwickshire RO is very helpful though I have no personal experience with them

Debbie

[angelbaby69nz]

lol i would say super expensive, althought it could be quite cool seeing where my ancestors lived...LOL but money wise i think ill trya nd contact the RO and see how i get on LOL

I sat for about two hours last night sifting through all the papers, i havent made heads or tails of some of the info yet, it gets all a bit confusing to say the least and the ages vary slightly on each census...although someone told me they round tot he nearest five in some cases.... *sigh*

I can see why people say your tree is never finished.

[angelbaby69nz]

oh hey, one more question, off the topic.

Whats the popular womans magazine over there...? In NZ i would have to say its the womans day or the NZ womans weekly, this is where people place helpline ads, do you have the same thing over there?

Cheers
Tisha