GRANTHAM - Help please

[angelbaby69nz]

Hi again.

I hope you are al lhaving a nice sleep i printed off the information above, its taken me a bout 2 hours to get my head around it some of it.

Just a quick question.  on the 1841 pillerton priors census there is listed:

William Grantham born 1796 Lab
Sarah Grantham born 1801
Mary Ann Granthm born 1826
Jeremiah Grantham born 1827
John grantham born 1834
George grantham born 1837

In 1841 my William ( born 1823 ) who doesnt apear above, would of been 18.  Is there a earlier census that would show both of them on there?

[angelbaby69nz]

sorry that would show both Jeremiah and and William ? thanks again.

[DebbieG]

Sorry - for most places in England the earliest census is 1841 and at the moment I can't find William born 1823 on it

I had a look at the IGI (family search) - William Granthan born 1794 Tysoe and his wife Sarah (no marriage found but Tysoe is not covered for this period by the IGI) had the following children in Pillerton Priors

Hannah 1817
Thomas 1820
William 1823
Mary Ann 1826 (from census - no baptism found)
Jeremiah 1827 (from census - no baptism found)
Joseph 1831 (died 1831)
Elizabeth 1831 (died 1832)
John 1833
George 1837

You already have William & Sarah (the elder ) in the 1841 and 1851 census - here is what happened after

In 1861 William & Sarah are living in Pillerton Priors - non of their children are with them

By 1871 Sarah has died and the widowed William is living with his son Thomas's family in Pillerton

from 1871 - Pillerton

Thomas Grantham 50  ag lab born pillerton
Elizabeth Grantham 46  born Eatington
Thomas H Grantham 10 
Mary A Grantham 8 
Ada Grantham 2 
William Grantham 77  father born Tysoe

The elder William is still alive in 1881 and is now living with his son William who is also widowed and some of his family in Ettington

from 1881 Eatington

William Grantham 57  wid Farm Lab born Pillerton
Elizabeth Grantham 19  unmarried born Eatington
Sarah Ann Hoare 29  daughter married born Eatington
Florence M. Hoare 8  grandaughter born Eatington
Ada Lydia Hoare 3  grandaughter born Eatington
Charles H. Grantham grandson 8 months born Eatington
William Grantham 87  father wid born Tysoe

 

Debbie

[DebbieG]

Hi me again - just recapping on this thread, in answer to some questions - yes I have a sub-scription to ancestry,  no I don't live in Warwickshire, just 10 miles outside  in Leicestershire, though the places we are looking at are considerably further away from me being in the south of the county.  I have checked the 2004 electoral roll I have and although I can find many Granthams in Warwickshire there don't appear to be any left in either of the Pillertons or Ettington.  Information on people after the 1901 census is a bit tricky to find.

Debbie

PS Yes I did sleep well 

[Fishnet]

Hi Dizz,
           Thomas Grantham born 1820 was my great,great grandfather.My great grandmother was his daughter Dinah.One of her sisters Mary Ann emigrated to New Zealand and i have just found out from a contact in Australia that she went there via America.Given she appears on the 1871 census living in Pillerton Priors and was married in Ashburton,South Island to a Samuel Timmo in 1878,she must have emigrated as a child,but we don't know why.Having just read about Jeremiah Grantham,your ancestor,being in New Zealand i wondered if you know of any connection with Mary Ann.Is he the reason she went to New Zealand?
Colin.

[Fishnet]

Hi again,
             Got it wrong the first time it was Jeremiahs son that went to New Zealand,right.
colin.

[angelbaby69nz]

Hi there, the may ann that came to Nz was only a child, and was married to a Mads peter Christensen...she emmigrated with her parents Hannah Maria Grantham and George Grantham.  Jeremiah and George were brothers.  There were a ton of mary anns LOL good luck with your search.  I can look through my papers as i remember the name TIMMO...but it wouldnt be for a day or two ) where are you based BTW? im in LowerHutt, Wellington, NZ )

[Fishnet]

Hi,Thanks for replying,i'm based in england and it would be great if you could check your info out to see if there is anything about the Timmo's or mary ann grantham.I've been told anyone called Timmo in New zealand is a direct descendant of samuel and mary ann but i don't know for sure if this is true.Apparently samuel and mary ann had 15 children,samuel died in 1903 in Ashburton and Mary Ann died in 1932 in Napier if that helps you identify them within your info.
The story i have been told is that samuel,who was born in Madras india,was found as an orphan by a british soldier and taken to America from India.Samuel and Mary Ann were travelling to New Zealand on the same ship and this is how they met.Samuel had been working in the goldfields ,poss california,and was going to NZ to do the same.How Mary Ann came to be in America is a mystery at the moment.We also don't know the name of the ship or any dates for these events at present.Best Wishes,Colin.

[angelbaby69nz]

HI Colin,

Tish here, Sorry i took so long to reply. i have searched through my records at home and cant find the listings of the Timmos that i had, i can only assume when i was tidying my paperwork that i discarded it when i realized it was not my line, which is rather odd as i usually pop it in and envelope on the off chance anyone asks for it.  I will keep an eye out and let you know.  I will be going to births deaths and marriages next week to continue listing all the granthams listed, i have a couple already which were Mary Ann Barefoot, Mary Ann Grantham nee Raven.....and another which i cant remember off the top of my head.  I know it wont be the one you are after though as I'm not up to 1932 yet.  I am heading to Napier this Sunday ( I'm guessing Saturday your time ) so if there is  a photo you would like me to take of a headstone let me know.  Just need to know what cemetery, name and date of death. ) I will also be stopping in at Masterton Cemetery to snap away...so if there is something there too, let me know.  Had another idea, if there is a certificate you would like me to order, i can do so, the cost is $20 ( up until a certain date ) and then $26 after that, I'm not sure how that works out in comparison to yours, but if reasonably the same, we could do a swap? Saves paying through the nose on exchange rates and what not?  Hear from you soon. Cheers.