Savage of Cork

[Graeme Savage]

My grandfather Charles Edward Savage was born in Cork in 1895 and was raised in Kinsale. His parents, William and Catherine ( nee Niel ) Savage, l could not trace their families, names etc. l heard that my gandfather had 5 sisters and 2 brothers but one of his brothers Arthur Hugh & Charles came to Australia in the late 1920s . Charles married Maggie Dixon in England ( whereabouts ? ) in 1918. l'm doing my family tree research.

[Graeme Savage]

My grandfather Charles Edward Savage was born in Cork in 1895 and was raised in Kinsale. His parents, William and Catherine ( nee Niel ) Savage, l could not trace their families, names etc. l heard that my gandfather had 5 sisters and 2 brothers but one of his brothers Arthur Hugh & Charles came to Australia in the late 1920s . Charles married Maggie Dixon in England ( whereabouts ? ) in 1918. l'm doing my family tree research.

[rawry45]

My grandfather Charles Edward Savage was born in Cork in 1895 and was raised in Kinsale. His parents, William and Catherine ( nee Niel ) Savage, l could not trace their families, names etc. l heard that my gandfather had 5 sisters and 2 brothers but one of his brothers Arthur Hugh & Charles came to Australia in the late 1920s . Charles married Maggie Dixon in England ( whereabouts ? ) in 1918. l'm doing my family tree research.

Finally at last  Many thanks Graeme... 

[Fluff604]

Bingo 2! My great-grandmother was Fred's & Charlie's eldest sister. I don't know how much Graeme has discovered, but I have the following:

James Savage, living 1864, Bandon, Co Cork, miller (later a shopkeeper); m. Jane Sweeny
children:
1. William Lunny S, b. c. 1862, d. 17 Feb 1933, Yorks (see below);
2. Rebecca S, b. 15 Jul 1864, Bandon. m. 25 Apr 1885, Ballymodan parish ch, William Neil/Neill (b. c. 1858, Co Fermanagh). At least 11 children. Living 1911, Friarsgate, Kinsale.
3. Lizzie S? (witness to Rebecca's marriage)

William Lunny Savage m. 8 May 1887, Kinsale par ch, Catherine Neil (b. c. 1865, d. 3 Oct 1930, Yorks), probably sis of William above.
children:
1. Eva Grace Valentine S, b. 14 Feb 1888, Fisher St, Kinsale, d. 10 Aug 1954, France Lynch, Glos. m. 15 Feb 1916, St Peter's par ch, Fulham, London, William Matthews (b. 1892, d. 1963). 4 children.
2. George James S, b. 25 Jul 1889, Shannon St, Bandon
3.

[Fluff604]

continued (I pressed the wrong button!)

William Lunny Savage m. Catherine Neil
children:
3. Rebecca, b. 23 Oct 1890, Inishannon, Co Cork. m. 26 Sep 1918, Stainland par ch, Yorks, Robert McMaster (b. c. 1892). 1 son.
4. Frederick William, b. 12 Apr 1893, Inishannon, d. 2 Nov 1958 (Stainland?). m. 1st, 4 Oct 1919, Stainland par ch, Edith Annie Kaye (b. c. 1898, d. 1933). 4 children. Fred m. 2nd, Elizabeth Ellen Taylor.
5. Charles Edward, b. 28 Oct 1895, Pallastown, Co Cork. m. 4 Oct 1919, Stainland par ch (double wedding), Maggie Dixon (b. 1897?). 4 children. To Australia 1923 or '24.
6. Louise Frances, b. 19 May 1897, Irishtown, Co Kildare. m. 30 Oct 1919, Stainland par ch, Stanley Brookes (b. 1898?). 4 children.
7. Charlotte Elizabeth, b. 23 Aug 1903, Grange, Co Cork.
8. Catherine Maud, b. 7 Apr 1912?, d. 1988?. m. Thomas Eastwood.
9. Arthur, b. c. 1913.

William was variously a shop assistant, merchant's clerk & steward, but from the mid-1890's was a painter & decorator. Catherine's maiden name is sometimes given as O'Neill on the birth certs. I do have more on William & Catherine's grandchildren & beyond, but some, I know, are still alive & most I can't be sure about.

I am convinced that the John Savage mentioned by Samanthamsavage is a close relative of James; I don't have the relevant notes to hand, but I think he was also in the milling or shop keeping business, & Eva being b. in Fisher St is maybe more than a coincidence. I think they may have been originally from Co Fermanagh, which may strengthen their link to the Neil family.

Charlie & Maggie's 2nd son was b. Mar qtr 1923 in Halifax registration district, Yorks, but I'm fairly sure both appear on the 1924 Victoria Electoral Roll in Leongatha, Gippsland, hence my guess at their emigration date.

I am indebted to Ivan & Graeme for posting their pics on the Munster Fusiliers website. I recognised Fred immediately - my parents have the same portrait of him in 1917/18, as well as many others of the family.

I hope that's helpful & would welcome any additions/corrections.
Sorry about the glitch.

James

[Samanthamsavage]

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I am convinced that the John Savage mentioned by Samanthamsavage is a close relative of James; I don't have the relevant notes to hand, but I think he was also in the milling or shop keeping business, & Eva being b. in Fisher St is maybe more than a coincidence. I think they may have been originally from Co Fermanagh, which may strengthen their link to the Neil family.

James

So Eva and my great-grandad were possibly cousins, so we then are possible long-distance cousins!  This needs further research, can you and Graeme possibly help me?

Regards

Sam

[rawry45]

Samantha.... yes, we're descendants also distance cousin. I have my family trees in GenesReunited and Tribalpages.

[boobah]

my grandmother was Lizzie Savage from Kinsale who married Richard Willis,from Kilbronogue Co Cork, her mother was Helena Savage, as far as I know her husband was from the North of Ireland.  Both ladies are buried in St. Multose Churchyard Kinsale. Church of Ireland old church there.

[Maggie1895]

Welcome to Rootschat boobah -

do you have any idea of roughly the year that Lizzie might have married Richard Willis?     1870s, 1880s, 1890s?    There is a Lizzie S already mentioned in this thread who seems to have been part of a large family born around the 1860s, 1870s.

If they are the parents of John Richard Savage Willis born in Kinsale in the 3rd quarter of 1904, it might be worth looking for them in the 1901 census and tracking back from there.