WILLIAM PERCY ALLEN - MY BIGGEST BRICKWALL!

[AMBLY]

Hi all

1901 at 22 Garden Street, Nottingham (in the Radford / New Radford area)
was the family of Arthur & Thirza SIMPSON
RG13 /  Piece: 3181 /  Folio: 76 /  Page: 16

They are still in Nottingham in 1911 but not sure if  they are still at 22 Garden...

If they aren't - maybe by trying to find some of the 1901 neighbours in 1911 who might still be on the same street, you can find Nr 22?  One neighbour in 1901 was a Jospeh CHAPLAIN age 44 at nr 20.
He looks to be in Nottingham in 1911 age 54

Cheers
AMBLY

[HistoryFan]

I've been investigating heaps to try and figure out the WILLIAM PERCY ALLEN mystery.  A thorough read and re-read of all his Military records has narrowed down my belief that he was born between 1876-1880 in ST MARGARETS LEICESTER.

The 4 year 'gap' in his birth year is due to age changes on a couple of Censuses, records and his death certificate.  His death certificate says he was 39 in February 1916.

Would anyone kindly be able to look up baptisms at St Margarets between 1876-1880.  His fathers name is CHARLES and his mother SARAH.

I do apologise if anyone is wearying of my ALLEN search.  I am so very keen to get to the bottom of this mystery.

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

I found this marriage,

Charles Byron ALLAN    Jun Q 1881    Leicester    7a  437   
Sarah JENKINS       
Annie JOHNSON         
John MATTHEWS         


Regards
Daisy

[HistoryFan]

Hi,

I found this marriage,

Charles Byron ALLAN    Jun Q 1881    Leicester    7a  437   
Sarah JENKINS       
Annie JOHNSON         
John MATTHEWS         


Regards
Daisy

Thanks Daisy.  I wonder if this was the same Charles B Allan who is mentioned as being born in Toronto (post a few previous to this one).  Interesting.

[davidrigg3]

Hi HistoryFan,

I have a freebie disk that lists baptisms at St. Margaret's Leic upto 1878. I haven't been able to find anyone that could be your William Percy unfortunately. I tried all combinations I could think of re: with or without a middle name/initial, surname Allen, surname Jenkins, surname anything at all, father Charles, single mother Sarah etc. etc.

Hopefully someone else that has additional records upto 1880 will see this and be able to find him for you - Good Luck.

[HistoryFan]

Hi HistoryFan,

I have a freebie disk that lists baptisms at St. Margaret's Leic upto 1878. I haven't been able to find anyone that could be your William Percy unfortunately. I tried all combinations I could think of re: with or without a middle name/initial, surname Allen, surname Jenkins, surname anything at all, father Charles, single mother Sarah etc. etc.

Hopefully someone else that has additional records upto 1880 will see this and be able to find him for you - Good Luck.

Thank you so much for looking through your records and with all the variables. I really do appreciate it.

[alpinecottage]

Have you considered that Charles, Sarah and William may have gone over to Canada after their (possible) marriage?  Have you looked on Find my Past for shipping records? I wonder if they were over there until mid 1890s or even later, and William  came back alone to join up.  By 1911, Charles would have been 75 (if 1881 census is him).  He and Sarah may have died in Canada or wherever else they may have gone and the next of kin address may have been out of date.  Perhaps if you post on the Canada board, someone may find them there  

[davidrigg3]

In answer to your earlier question on how far apart are St. Mark's and St. Margaret's - not very far at all.

St. Mark's is somewhere in Belgrave Gate - I googled this and then asked google maps to show directions to St. Margaret's Way. Using main roads, not a direct line, and going to the far end of St. Margaret's Way it comes up with a distance of 1.4 miles. I think St. Margaret's is nearer to the city than that so in reality it looks like there is less than 1 mile between the two chuches which strongly suggests that they are neighbouring parishes.

[HistoryFan]

In answer to your earlier question on how far apart are St. Mark's and St. Margaret's - not very far at all.

St. Mark's is somewhere in Belgrave Gate - I googled this and then asked google maps to show directions to St. Margaret's Way. Using main roads, not a direct line, and going to the far end of St. Margaret's Way it comes up with a distance of 1.4 miles. I think St. Margaret's is nearer to the city than that so in reality it looks like there is less than 1 mile between the two chuches which strongly suggests that they are neighbouring parishes.

Thank you for checking this out.  I wonder if St Marks is a possibility I should explore also? 

Re-reading with a magnifying glass his Military records the birth place says "St Margs Leicester".  At least this is what I thought it said in view of the 1901 Census putting his birth place as St Margarets Leicester.

Could this in fact be St Marks or even St Mary's?

My genealogy is marvellous but can have me scratching my head at times!