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Looking for Children of George & Sophia Nuthall circa 1830's Hounslow
« on: Monday 28 December 09 22:28 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to piece together one of my family lines, the Nuthall's, confectioners.  I can trace back to a George Nuthall b 1805 d 1873 and his wife Sophia who were living in Kingston, London in 1871.

I am trying to find their complete list of children, so far I have Abigail Maria (b 1831 Hounslow, my g-g-grandmother), George William (b 1933 Brentford) and Charles Edward (b 1842). Any help to fill in the gaps, other siblings etc would be much appreciated... thank you... Phil.
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Re: Looking for Children of George & Sophia Nuthall circa 1830's Hounslow
« Reply #1 on: Monday 28 December 09 22:42 GMT (UK) »
There is also Anne Matilda Nuthall, baptised 15 Nov 1835 at St Laurence, New Brentford. George's occupation is pastry cook.

George Nuthall, bachelor, married Sophia Williams, spinster, at St Mary, Hanwell on 19 March 1830. William Nuthall and Samuel Burton (Parish Clerk) were the witnesses.

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Essex - Burrell, Thorogood
Norfolk - Alcock, Bowen, Bowers, Breeze, Burton, Creamer, Hammond, Sparkes, Wakefield, Wiggett
North Devon - Burgess, Chalacombe, Collacott, Goss
Northamptonshire - George, Letts, Muscutt, Richardson
Somerset - Barber
Wiltshire - Brine, Burges, Carey, Gray, Lywood, Musselwhite, Perris, Read, Turner, Wilkins

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Re: Looking for Children of George & Sophia Nuthall circa 1830's Hounslow
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 December 09 22:58 GMT (UK) »
The 1841 Census provides the following information:

 HO107; Piece 1075; Book: 2; Folio: 55; Page: 9
Thames Street, Kingston
George Nuthall 37 Confectioner
Sophia "           39                       
George "           8
Abigail "           10
Ann "                6
Ann "               18
Alfred West      16 Servant in bakery
Charles (Weldesh?) 18 Servant in bakery  Born in county
Emma Swallow 15  F.S.   Born in county

All were not born in the county, except where indicated.

The 1851 Census has the following information:

HO107; Piece: 1603; Folio: 228; Page: 31
Thames Street, Kingston
George Nuthall Head  47 Confectioner  Suffolk, Frostenden
Sophia Nuthall Wife    49   Bucks, Thame
Abigail Nuthall Dau     20  Middx, Brentford
G W Nuthall Son         18 Middx, Brentford
Ann Maria Nuthall Dau 15 Middx, Brentford
Charles Edwd Nuthall Son 8 Surrey, Kingston
James Keyes Apprentice? 19 Confectioner London
Charles Thornton "          19 Confectioner Middx, Brentford
Henry Crawford "            14 Confectioner London
Mary Watts Servant        27 Servant Norfolk, Beeston

The 1861 Census (RG9; Piece: 455; Folio: 202; Page: 37) does not add any further children to the family.

Thames Street, Kingston
George Nuthall Head 56 Wholesale retail confectioner employing 27 hands     Suffolk, Frostenden
Sophia Nuthall Wife 59                                                                                    Oxon, Thame
Charles Nuthall Son 18 Confectioner's apprentice                                          Surrey, Kingston
Ann Nuthall Dau 25                                                                                          Middx, Brentford
Edward P Bowmar Nephew 21 Civil Service (Education Dep)                         Suffolk, Bury St Ed
Eliza Chipperfield Cousin 30    Shopwoman                                                   Suffolk, Wrentham
Charles Randall Apprentice 18 Apprentice confectioner                                    Surrey, Kingston         
Henrietta Wise Servant 32     General servant                                                  Middx, Ealing

At the neighbouring property is a Daniel Chipperfield, aged 25 and unmarried, also from Wrentham, Suffolk (perhaps a relative).

I assume you have the 1871 Census.

Deaths:
NUTHALL George  age 68  Kingston  2a 168 Mar 1873 qtr.
NUTHALL Sophia  age 79  Kingston  2a 168 Jun 1881 qtr.

Likely birth/baptism details for George NUTHALL (from RG4 1867):
Born: 28 Oct 1804
Baptised: 18 Jan 1805
Parents: William & Abigail NUTHALL
Location: Independent Congregational Church, Wrentham, Suffolk

Nigel
Essex - Burrell, Thorogood
Norfolk - Alcock, Bowen, Bowers, Breeze, Burton, Creamer, Hammond, Sparkes, Wakefield, Wiggett
North Devon - Burgess, Chalacombe, Collacott, Goss
Northamptonshire - George, Letts, Muscutt, Richardson
Somerset - Barber
Wiltshire - Brine, Burges, Carey, Gray, Lywood, Musselwhite, Perris, Read, Turner, Wilkins

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Re: Looking for Children of George & Sophia Nuthall circa 1830's Hounslow
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 29 December 09 01:54 GMT (UK) »
St Lawrence, New Brentford
1831 Mar 13, Abigail Maria, d/o George & Sophia NUTHALL, New Brentford, Confectioner, born 1830 Dec 20
1833 Feb 24, George William, s/o George & Sophia NUTHALL, New Brentford, Confectioner

St Mary, Hanwell burial
1857 Dec 31, Abigail NUTHALL, Old Brentford, age 75 years
1861 May 9, Henry NUTHALL, Old Brentford, 81 years

Think there might be mixup in the fathers name that Nigel found, by the parish clerk or Vicar I mean, not Nigel. There are two sons with William and Abigail as parents 1803 to 1805, and then a number of children baptised to a Henry and Abigail at the same church from 1808 to 1824. The Ann with George and family in 1841 age 16 is likely to be the Ann born 1824 to Henry and Abigail in Wrentham. In 1841 Henry and Abigail are in St James, Bury St Edmunds, and in 1851 are in Hampton, Middlesex.

There is also no marriage for a William to an Abigail, but there is a Henry, IGI submitted entry, 20 Jul 1802 to Abigail RAMBY. Henry's birthplace as Frostenden, baptised 20 Sep 1779 at Wrentham

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Re: Looking for Children of George & Sophia Nuthall circa 1830's Hounslow
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 29 December 09 02:49 GMT (UK) »
John Christopher Wilson NICHOLLS of the parish of Kingston upon Thames, Surrey, bachelor, and Elizabeth NUTHALL, otp, spinster, were married after licence at St Lawrence, New Brentford, 29 Nov 1829. Witnesses were George NUTHALL, Abigail NUTHALL and Elizabeth NICHOLLS.

The signature of George the witness in 1829 looks a fairly good match with the signature of George the groom in 1830.

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Re: Looking for Children of George & Sophia Nuthall circa 1830's Hounslow
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 29 December 09 18:37 GMT (UK) »
Ian and Nigel, thank you both very much for this valuable information which confirms the children of George and Sophia as well as their birth marriage and death details which I will now feed into my tree on Ancestry. You have also given me some useful leads on the next generation back which I really appreciate.

My cousin contacted me a few days ago to say he has a hunter watch in his possession, passed down from his father which had the initials CEN and the date Aug 1881 on it. I believe CEN was Charles Edward Nuthall, the youngest son of George and Sophia. A former mayor of Kingston was Charles E Nuthall in 1884/85 so I am assuming it is the same person.
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Re: Looking for Children of George & Sophia Nuthall circa 1830's Hounslow
« Reply #6 on: Monday 11 January 10 20:26 GMT (UK) »
hello visited hounslow lbry to reserch harrison & other canal famalies baptised at the disused st lawrences church & i thought you might like to see these

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Re: Looking for Children of George & Sophia Nuthall circa 1830's Hounslow
« Reply #7 on: Monday 11 January 10 20:35 GMT (UK) »
so sorry it wont let me attatch .will try again .hounslow have on micro fich from original book of baptism for abigail marie &ann matilda if wont work will try to p.m. you
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Re: Looking for Children of George & Sophia Nuthall circa 1830's Hounslow
« Reply #8 on: Monday 03 May 10 04:13 BST (UK) »
John Christopher Wilson NICHOLLS of the parish of Kingston upon Thames, Surrey, bachelor, and Elizabeth NUTHALL, otp, spinster, were married after licence at St Lawrence, New Brentford, 29 Nov 1829. Witnesses were George NUTHALL, Abigail NUTHALL and Elizabeth NICHOLLS.

The signature of George the witness in 1829 looks a fairly good match with the signature of George the groom in 1830.

Ian C
Ian, John Christopher Wilson NICHOLLS and Elizabeth NUTHALL are my 2 great grandparents.  Do you have any info on parents?  I have some info I am willing to share.