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Scots in the 1911 Census for England & Wales
« on: Thursday 24 December 09 14:24 GMT (UK) »
As far as I can see, this info hasn't been posted previously.  If it has, apologies for the repeat.


The 1911 census for England & Wales included info on British army battalions stationed abroad, including Scottish regiments.

Ken Glenlivet has put together the following summary of the situation.

10 Scottish Infantry Battalions appear in the Military Section of the 1911 census for England & Wales.

Note that the Scots Guards as part of the Household Brigade were not counted as a Scottish Regiment and the Household Brigade regiments never served overseas except at time of war.

The location of the infantry battalions which formed the Scottish infantry brigades in the regular army overseas is shown below. 

From 1881 and the "Cardwell" reforms onwards all Scottish regiments had two battalions, with peace time practice being one battalion at home and one overseas.

India

2nd Battalion Gordon Highlanders in Cawnpore
2nd Battalion Cameron Highlanders Baird Barracks Bangalore
2nd Battalion Black Watch Siaklot Punjab
1st Battalion Royal Scots Allababad
1st Battalion Seaforth Highlanders Chanbatta
1st Battalion King's Own Scottish Borderers Rainkhet
1st Battalion Highland Light Infantry Outram Barracks Dilkusa Lucknow

Malta

1st Battalion Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders Imtarfa Barracks Malta


South Africa

1st Battalion Royal Scots Fusiliers Pretoria South Africa
1st Battalion Cameronians Tempe Bloemfontein South Africa


The respective 1st and 2nd Battalions will appear in the Scottish
1911 census except for the 2nd KOSB which was headquarted at Berwick-
upon-Tweed England, but was considered by the military to be a Scottish
Regiment [just as Berwick Rangers plays in the Scottish Football League1].


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Re: Scots in the 1911 Census for England & Wales
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 22 November 12 23:49 GMT (UK) »
As far as I can see, this info hasn't been posted previously.  If it has, apologies for the repeat.


The 1911 census for England & Wales included info on British army battalions stationed abroad, including Scottish regiments.

Ken Glenlivet has put together the following summary of the situation.

10 Scottish Infantry Battalions appear in the Military Section of the 1911 census for England & Wales.
After stumbling upon a census sheet for a barracks in Oxford, whilst looking for one local man who happened to be serving there, I have spent a sizeable chunk of the last 2 days trying to figure out how to isolate military units recorded in the 1911 Eng/Wales census.

If I understand you correctly, either you and/or Ken Glenlivet have already cracked this particular nut.

Any chance of a tutorial (or idiot's guide . . . ) I'm not finding Ancestry.co.uk in any way intuitive in this case.

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Re: Scots in the 1911 Census for England & Wales
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 24 November 12 19:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi Philip

What is the name, and regiment of this ancestor ?

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David W Webster  FSA Scot

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Re: Scots in the 1911 Census for England & Wales
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 24 November 12 20:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi Philip

What is the name, and regiment of this ancestor ?

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David W Webster  FSA Scot

Well, I am researching 90-odd names on the Memorial in my home town, Buckingham. Originally I was trying to get a handle on Reginald C CHURCH, Corporal   6902, 1st Bn Royal Scots Fusiliers, but in 1911 he was living and working in his native Berkshire, so - in his case - I am wondering how (in the absence of any surviving Service Records) to get the story of how he came to be in France 1915, a Sassenach serving with a Battalion of Regular Army Jocks. And then there's the question of how he is connected with Buckingham, since he was not born here.

I have parked him, temporarily, in the pending pile.

In the meantime, there are others on our memorial who were serving as Regulars in 1911, but I don't know how to look for the census details of specific units Barracked in UK, let alone abroad even though I know those records are held in Ancestry.Com, because I happened upon one of my 'names', serving with the Ox & Bucks and barracked in Cowley, Oxon in 1911.

A wee bit of tinkering with that search enabled me to call up thousands of names serving in dozens of barracks in England and Wales, which was interesting, but not much use.

I want to be able to move on systematically from there, and I wondered if you know how.