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Tailors' earnings?
« on: Tuesday 22 December 09 21:01 GMT (UK) »
Anyone have an idea what sort of earnings a tailor would have made in the early-mid 1800s (Staffs). or if they woud have been comfortably off or pretty poor, please?
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Re: Tailors' earnings?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 23 December 09 00:19 GMT (UK) »
I dont think it was a very well paid job
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Re: Tailors' earnings?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 23 December 09 00:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi Shan42,
I think there is a possibility that it would depend on how good they were and whether they had a list of clients or whether they worked for someone else.
I have a James Hutcheon and at the age of 19 he stated he was a tailor.  10 yrs later and he was working on the railways, so obviously he found it difficult to make ends meet and found a better position.
Is there no link that we can use to find out.  According to someone I have been corresponding told me that if you wished to grade jobs it would possibly start: pauper, shoemaker, coalminer, fisherman,(food always being further up the list, maybe Tailor, butcher,grocer and top would possibly be Solicitor etc. Reverend (although they could be quite poor depending upon the generosity of the congregation.   What do you think?   marcie.
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Lanark/Argyll/Renfrew/Ayr:Smith, Steele,Kirkwood,Hamilton,May,orO'mayscott and anderso, craig , forbes taggart Kirkwood, milloy and steel apart ftom others which are numerous, graham mcilroy. stewart.brown battonisle of sku rothsay etc.
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Re: Tailors' earnings?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 23 December 09 02:10 GMT (UK) »
Thanks both... well he must have been good my ancestor because that's the only job I have for him - at least one of my lot weren't on the bread line, lol!!

I'm quite surprised about shoemakers though, I'd have thought they'd be a bit further up the scale.
Mitchell, Irish, Solloway - Worcs
Rainsford - B'ham
Blackwell - Glos
Hale - Glos
Timms - Glos
Benton - B'ham
Hadwin - London
Linfield - Surrey


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Re: Tailors' earnings?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 23 December 09 02:48 GMT (UK) »
I'm quite surprised about shoemakers though, I'd have thought they'd be a bit further up the scale.

Me too ...  :-\ Further investigation required I suspect.  ;)

I would have thought that any skilled job with an apprenticeship would be higher up the scale - including shoemakers, blacksmiths etc. Marcie is probably correct when she says that it depends on their standing and success within their industry.

There were many jobs associated with coalmining - some more skilled than others so it would be difficult to lump these kinds of jobs together.

And what about Farmers - ag labs etc? Ag labs would be fairly low paid.  Depending on the acreage and crop, wether or not they were tennant farmers etc etc, I imagine that some farmers may be reasonably well off financially?  :-\

Interesting question shan42.  :)

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Re: Tailors' earnings?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 23 December 09 03:58 GMT (UK) »
I think this might help with your query:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/07q8/

(lots of interesting stuff on that site - click on 'home')

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Re: Tailors' earnings?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 23 December 09 09:08 GMT (UK) »
What an instersting site  :).. thanks Ruskie, I have bookmarked that. :)

I see that Tailors was not a particularly well paid job.

I based my previous assumption on  the fact that there were a lot of Jewish Tailors in the Bethnal Green East End of London and that was a very poor area.

I am not surprised about the Shoe makers,initially my gt. grandfather was one and his father a Cordwainer and they were very poor
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Re: Tailors' earnings?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 23 December 09 22:13 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the link :)

So is 'cordwainer' pronounced 'cordiner' then?
Mitchell, Irish, Solloway - Worcs
Rainsford - B'ham
Blackwell - Glos
Hale - Glos
Timms - Glos
Benton - B'ham
Hadwin - London
Linfield - Surrey

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Re: Tailors' earnings?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 23 December 09 23:30 GMT (UK) »
I think it was pronounced as it was spelt  :-\
this information is Crown Copyright. from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk   London Hall, Thurston Stanley, Phillips, Ayrton, White, Morrish, Smith.    West Ham/Barking Saint,Briggs,   Essex  Barker,   Hampshire  Kill, Kent Spong,   U.S.A Earp, Scotland/Cumbria Templeton, Devon Morrish, Chudley