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Re: Does this old photograph ring any bells?
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 27 December 09 18:25 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if the 'fancy gent' was infact a sort of Club Mascot?

Or maybe it was somesort of 'Masonic Lodge' event and that outfit was their society costume.


excuse my thoughts I've had a drink or two.

Wendy
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Re: Does this old photograph ring any bells?
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 27 December 09 18:56 GMT (UK) »
I think you're definitely on the right lines with your thinking there Wendy. There is indeed something ritualistic about it, isn't there.

Keep having the good ideas............open another bottle!

David.
Yorkshire: Riley, Holdstock, Smith, Turner, Pearson, Bailey, Swift.
Devon: Spry, Gimblett, Sleep, Wyvell(Wyvill), Fox, Kingsbear.
Lancashire; Squires (Swires ?).
Norfolk/Suffolk: Auston, Bedwell, Crooks, Charlish.
Essex: Auston,.

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Re: Does this old photograph ring any bells?
« Reply #29 on: Monday 28 December 09 05:19 GMT (UK) »
Just a thought on when the photo might have been taken and possible traditions... bear with me ::)
In the photo with the cricketers in the foreground you c an clearly see the chimneys smoking in the picture of "Grandad"they don't appear to be so maybe a day when the mill wasn't running. Wakes week , Good Friday, Christmas day (think not as there are leaves on the trees) or a Sunday???? My instincts go more towards Good Friday but that could be because I'm thinking of mummers/ pace egg plays that took place then when gents dressed in all kinds of different attire hence the chap on the left (maybe?).
Had a look for more about Fattorinis they were big supporters of the Manningham rugby club, googling that, one website had photo's of teams wearing very similar looking "running" shoes to the vested chaps on the left of the picture but they would all have the same "vests" if that was the case..... just thoughts to see if anyone else can come up with anything.
All the best
Rose
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Re: Does this old photograph ring any bells?
« Reply #30 on: Monday 28 December 09 08:51 GMT (UK) »
A couple more thoughts
Titus Salts was a bit of a stickler for Sunday observance so a Sunday could be a good bet, besides which Sundays and church holidays were the only holidays that working men had.   :'(
In Salts mill there is an exhibition of old photos and documents, perhaps they have a record of the event ?
Well spotted for the smoke Rose.
The anchor-man in a Tug-o-war team might well have 'dressed' for the occasion but I can't find a photo to prove it.
Gran always claimed a family tie to Fattorinis and she was never far wrong but I have not been able to find the link ??
Dave   :)
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Re: Does this old photograph ring any bells?
« Reply #31 on: Monday 28 December 09 12:01 GMT (UK) »
Would it be worth approaching the friends of Roberts park to see if they can shed light on any traditions? Their contact  details are on the saltaire website mentioned previously.

Rose
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Whitaker- Halifax
Dixon- London & Yorkshire
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Boyling-Oldham,Royton & Shropshire
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SMITH!! Kirkcaldy, Manchester
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Re: Does this old photograph ring any bells?
« Reply #32 on: Monday 28 December 09 13:20 GMT (UK) »
Hiya Folks.

Some cracking ideas coming through now we've got the festivities out of the way ;)
I hadn't spotted the smoke clue Rose, well done. But looking again at the location, this time with a magnifying glass, I think they must be on the cricket pitch;  if you look to the right of the little stocky dapper chap on our right, I think you can just make out the edge of the river, with the trees being on the opposite bank. This would comply perfectly with the 'maps.live' view and put the two chimneys in the correct position in relation to each other........ if you see what I mean :-\

I think contacting the Friends of Roberts Park is a great idea. They may have a history section or something like it. I've looked up the Telegraph & Argos on the web but the only thing I can find re history/readers letters is the one that is a web-based thingy :-[  not a form to have an article inserted in the paper itself.

With regard to when the photo was taken; I'd have thought that a competition for a trophy would probably take place on a feast day or bank holiday rather than on an ordinary Sunday. I may be way out with that but the ritualistic aspect would also point to a more 'significant' day - a once a year type of event that was important enough to employ a photographer.

I say I think a photographer must have taken the snap as the reverse side is laid out in postcard format. This was quite a usual practice for a professional photographer.

As for Fattorini's, I wonder if they would have any order books or the like, going back to the 20's? ::) That would be good.

Anyway, plenty to do tomorrow with emails and phonecalls. Thanks a million for your input so far, folks.
Isn't this website great  ;D

David
Yorkshire: Riley, Holdstock, Smith, Turner, Pearson, Bailey, Swift.
Devon: Spry, Gimblett, Sleep, Wyvell(Wyvill), Fox, Kingsbear.
Lancashire; Squires (Swires ?).
Norfolk/Suffolk: Auston, Bedwell, Crooks, Charlish.
Essex: Auston,.

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Re: Does this old photograph ring any bells?
« Reply #33 on: Monday 28 December 09 13:49 GMT (UK) »
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the only thing I can find re history/readers letters is the one that is a web-based thingy

Letters to the Editor
Telegraph and Argus
Hall Ings
Bradford
BD1 1JR

tanda.letters@telegraphandargus.co.uk

have a look here http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/tahistory/featuresnostalgiapasttimes/

name and address plus Tel. No. required. max 200 words

Dave
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Re: Does this old photograph ring any bells?
« Reply #34 on: Monday 28 December 09 15:33 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that Dave. How the.....did I miss that?  I'd looked at the page but took it to be articles on the web only.
Anyway, I've used the email address you gave me and sent a request for readers' info and attached the photo, of course.
So lets see if it gets any results. Thanks again,Dave.

Regards,David
Yorkshire: Riley, Holdstock, Smith, Turner, Pearson, Bailey, Swift.
Devon: Spry, Gimblett, Sleep, Wyvell(Wyvill), Fox, Kingsbear.
Lancashire; Squires (Swires ?).
Norfolk/Suffolk: Auston, Bedwell, Crooks, Charlish.
Essex: Auston,.

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Re: Does this old photograph ring any bells?
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 29 December 09 16:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi all.

Quick update :   I've emailed the Friends of Robert Park and the Tug-of-War Association with requests for any assistance which they may be able to offer.

So I wait with baited breath!

David.
Yorkshire: Riley, Holdstock, Smith, Turner, Pearson, Bailey, Swift.
Devon: Spry, Gimblett, Sleep, Wyvell(Wyvill), Fox, Kingsbear.
Lancashire; Squires (Swires ?).
Norfolk/Suffolk: Auston, Bedwell, Crooks, Charlish.
Essex: Auston,.