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COMPLETED - THANKS GRO Marine Death Indices
« on: Saturday 19 December 09 22:30 GMT (UK) »
I've found the record of the death of Jeremiah Murphy in the Marine Death Indices. I believe it is the death record of my great grandfather and to check it I would like to order the death certificate - can anyone tell me if you can order certificates from the marine death indices as you can from the 'normal' GRO death Index please?

I'm assuming I can't order it online or can I?

Any advice much appreciated as always

Thanks

Kim
Murphy - Yorkshire (mainly Goole), Guernesy & Ireland
Ward, Broadhead, Laverack, Duckels, Skelton, Williamson, Crowther, Lambert, Clark - Yorkshire
Smart, Dalton - Yorkshire & Lincolnshire
Bradley - Kent
Deamen - Wiltshire
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Re: GRO Marine Death Indices
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 19 December 09 22:35 GMT (UK) »
Hello Kim

Yes you can order these from GRO - at least I've bought weird overseas birth certificates so I assume the same applies.  ::)

Good luck  :)
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Re: GRO Marine Death Indices
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 19 December 09 22:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi Angela

Thanks very much for your reply - I'll order it and maybe another mystery solved!  ;D

Kim
Murphy - Yorkshire (mainly Goole), Guernesy & Ireland
Ward, Broadhead, Laverack, Duckels, Skelton, Williamson, Crowther, Lambert, Clark - Yorkshire
Smart, Dalton - Yorkshire & Lincolnshire
Bradley - Kent
Deamen - Wiltshire
Shave - Dorset

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Re: GRO Marine Death Indices
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 19 December 09 22:51 GMT (UK) »
Let us know how you get on - I seem to remember the references didn't quite fit the standard pattern but I put everything in with some extra comments and it all came back fine  ;D I managed a really strange overseas missionary death the same way  :)
Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Especially looking for - Sealey, Rogers, Cannings, Box, Sheppard in Wiltshire; Virgin, Slade, Abbott, Saint, Harper, Silverthorn in Somerset; and Virgin, Tarr, Beer in Devon

And most especially the origins of William Cannings,  a Baptist, born abt 1791 in Broughton Gifford, Wiltshire


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Re: GRO Marine Death Indices
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 19 December 09 23:08 GMT (UK) »
yeah - the entry I found doesn't fit the 'normal' pattern - it gives his name, age &  vessel rather than registration district, volume and page number.

Crikey, how on earth did you track THAT one down??  :o

Kim
Murphy - Yorkshire (mainly Goole), Guernesy & Ireland
Ward, Broadhead, Laverack, Duckels, Skelton, Williamson, Crowther, Lambert, Clark - Yorkshire
Smart, Dalton - Yorkshire & Lincolnshire
Bradley - Kent
Deamen - Wiltshire
Shave - Dorset

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 19 December 09 23:13 GMT (UK) »
I think it was under Consular death indices. Poor chap was only in his early twenties - pretty well all the missionaries who went to that part of Africa died pretty rapidly  :( Malaria mainly.....

This family history stuff isn't half good for the education  ;D
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Especially looking for - Sealey, Rogers, Cannings, Box, Sheppard in Wiltshire; Virgin, Slade, Abbott, Saint, Harper, Silverthorn in Somerset; and Virgin, Tarr, Beer in Devon

And most especially the origins of William Cannings,  a Baptist, born abt 1791 in Broughton Gifford, Wiltshire

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Re: GRO Marine Death Indices
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 19 December 09 23:17 GMT (UK) »
Isn't it just? I'm actually amazed at how long some of them ancestors did live give the conditions they lived in - your poor chap didn't have much luck tho, thats an awful way to die - I guess they really must have had a 'calling'!

Mine died at sea - leaving behind a widow who then 'took to drink' and three boys under the age of 5 who ended up in an orphanage  :(

I'll let you know if I managed to order the cert  :)   (I love these santa hats!)
Murphy - Yorkshire (mainly Goole), Guernesy & Ireland
Ward, Broadhead, Laverack, Duckels, Skelton, Williamson, Crowther, Lambert, Clark - Yorkshire
Smart, Dalton - Yorkshire & Lincolnshire
Bradley - Kent
Deamen - Wiltshire
Shave - Dorset

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Re: GRO Marine Death Indices
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 20 December 09 00:01 GMT (UK) »
You can get the death cert from GRO.  Tick Death Certificate, Overseas Events rather than the usual deaths, tick Yes you know the GRO Index and put in the year of death.  When you get to the page where you put in his name etc. you will find there is only one space for the reference, you just put in the vol and page number and they should be able to find the certificate for you.

Lizzie

ps.  That's what I did for my g.uncle's death certificate - he was killed in France in 1917.  Cert arrived in the usual time, i.e. about 5 days.

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Re: GRO Marine Death Indices
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 20 December 09 08:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lizzie

Thanks for the information, very helpful.

The only thing that concerns me is that I don't appear to have a volume number. At the top of the page is the number 32 which is just above 'Marine deaths for the year 1917' - do you know if that would be the volume number?

Many thanks

Kim
Murphy - Yorkshire (mainly Goole), Guernesy & Ireland
Ward, Broadhead, Laverack, Duckels, Skelton, Williamson, Crowther, Lambert, Clark - Yorkshire
Smart, Dalton - Yorkshire & Lincolnshire
Bradley - Kent
Deamen - Wiltshire
Shave - Dorset