Richard Fowler Born out of County

[coombs]

The Thomas Fowler born in Bridgnorth was baptised in 10 Jan 1791 son of John and Anne Fowler. So he could have been a brother of Richard if we can find a Richard Fowler born to the same parents in Bridgnorth.

[carol18]

Hello Dobby,
Thankyou for all the information you have given me,i will certainly look into
the marraige you have found,it is so good of you to take the time and trouble
to look for me.
Thankyou
Carol

[carol18]

Hello Valda,
Thankyou for the information you have given me and i will do as you say
and put up another Topic Richard Fowler the Shoemaker.
Many Thanks
Carol

[coombs]

I am sure he will turn up eventually.

[carol18]

Hi Coombs,
Thankyou very much for trying to help me find Richard,i am grateful.
but Thomas born to John and Anne Fowler is worth looking at.
Thankyou
Carol

[carol18]

Hi Valda,
Thankyou for your message,I was in touch with a person in Ditton Priors
and i looked on his tree,there was a Richard Fowler with Siblings i think he only
had information for one of the siblings nothing for Richard only date of Birth.
I think he was having the same problem he could not find them.
I thought this could be mine,i tried to send this person another message but he would not answer.
I have looked for a marriage for Richard and Ann in Birmingham,but i can`t find one.
On the 1841 Census Richards daughter Martha Casey lives there at the
same address,she was formerly Buckley her husband Jerimiah Buckley died.
I can`t find a birth for Martha or Richards son John Fowler born 1830.
I thought it was strange no children with Richard and Ann on the 1841 Census.
I found John on the 1851 Census with Harriet Fowler born abt 1837 whom i
assume could be John`s sister and they were Boarders.
On Richards death certificate in 1845 it states he was a Shoemaker on John`s
marriage certificate in 1852 it says Richard Shoe maker.
On Martha`s Marriage certificate in 1842 Richard was a labourer i have only
just noticed this.
So it looks like Richard only recently took shoemaking up before  he died.
Carol

 

[coombs]

Hi Carol

You need to find out the earliest known child born to Richard and Ann and go back from there. If Ann was born in Ireland they you need to be looking for perhaps an Irish sounding maiden name although many Irish people did have surnames that were common in England such as Smith, Musgrave, Bradford etc.

Do you know when Ann Fowler died?

Ben

[carol18]

Hi Ben,
I think Ann Fowler died in 1852,she was not on any census`s after 1851,
The only Ann Fowler i could find who died in Birmingham was 1852.
 Carol

[Valda]

Hi Carol


When you say you can't find Richard and Ann's marriage or their children's baptisms you mean you have exhausted all avenues such as the BMSGH indexes e.g. Greater Birmingham Marriage Index 1776-1837?

Labourer was a term which could be applied to all working men's occupations and some officials chose to use it as a generic term so it doesn't necessarily indicate he wasn't a shoemaker. It would be very unusual if he acquired a skilled trade in his late 50s early 60s.

John and Ann Fowler had 6 children baptised in Bridgnorth 1777-1787 including Thomas in 1791.
1777, 1780, 1782, 1785, 1787, and 1791 so consistent spacing between each of about 2/3 years.


Regards

Valda