Richard Fowler Born out of County

[Valda]

Hi

The marriages all seemed to be on the IGI (including one for a possible Harriett). If you have access to the parish registers at Birmingham Library I would check all the possibles to see what information they give, since the baptisms don't seem to be there, which is why I was questioning whether the family through Ann was Catholic.


Regards

Valda

[dobfarm]

MS 20/280 A&B  1829 in Birmingham archives.
Extracted words in the doc "Richard Fowler the younger and Richard Fowler the Senior of Ashton"

Put -A2A -in Google search

put -Richard Fowler Birmingham- in the Access to Archive search engine
Then look for the number above

There loads on the Chap. 800 plus pages

[Valda]

Hi

Birmingham was a city so you have to expect more than one of people with the same name. The documents are for a much richer Richard Fowler and his company, probably the man aged 58 on the 1851 census at Gravelly Hill Aston who was aged 58, a land agent and farmer employing 5 men and born Aston (Erdington on the 1861 census). His son Robert, still living at home, was a auctioneer. There were 5 servants in the household.
e.g.

Richard Fowler and Sons, surveyors and estate agents of Birmingham

'Diary of Richard Fowler, jun., of Gravelly Hill House, Erdington.  MS 20/352 A  1813
Deed of partnership for carrying on the malting business between Richard Fowler, the younger, of Erdington and Charles Machin, the younger, of Erdington, 1833. Also Messrs Fowler and Machin's bills and receipts for malt.  MS 20/352 B  1833-1866
Deed of partition of the residuary estate of the late Mr. Richard Fowler.  MS 20/353  1871
Papers concerning the estates of Richard and Sarah Fowler; including the probate copy of the will of Richard Fowler of Nechells Park House 1875, an office copy of the order for partition of the tithe rent - charges for Erdington, Bordesley and Little Bromwich between Frances Fowler and Josiah Yeomans Robins 1875. and the probate copy of the will of Mrs. Sarah Fowler of Weeford Lodge, Erdington. 1904.  MS 20/354  1875-1904'

There seems no connection with Richard Fowler the shoemaker who died in 1845.

RICHARD FOWLER and ELIZABETH JAMES 
Marriage:  23 APR 1778   Aston Juxta Birmingham, Warwick
Children baptised in Aston - Mary 1779, Elizabeth 1780, Richard 1791, William 1795 and Ann 1799
 

Regards

Valda

[dobfarm]

Hi Valda,
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=425671.new;topicseen#new

No harm done pointing A2A out! even if its the wrong Richard but if only for Elimination! This I find can be as good as a positive find sometimes by find as much info and connection with familes, the poor-rich-trades people and on. Trade directories may help with Shoemaker. If the families of Richard or Ann can be found if any are in Birmingham area in the census Ie a brother as a shoemaker or father.

Hi Carol this link may help you.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,358572.0.html

Regard Dave

[carol18]

Hi Valda,
Thankyou very,very much for trying so hard to help me find Richard
i am very grateful and appreciate you using your time to look for me.
Many Thanks
Carol

[carol18]

Hi Dave,
Thankyou for trying to help i will look at that website.
Many Thanks
Carol

[dobfarm]

Hi Carol,

As the post link says there are great minds on Rootschat! and here on your thread is a example! with Valda! Vast Knowledge in ancestry. Also things do turn up from most unexpected places with a bit of gap filling.

Best of Luck! I'll be going down to Warwark ( & archives) when I get back to Yorkshire from NewZealand -March! and see if I can find anything

Regards Dave -Merry Xmas

[carol18]

Merry Christmas Dave and thankyou.
Carol

[Ayla]

RICHARD FOWLER and ELIZABETH JAMES   
Marriage:  23 APR 1778   Aston Juxta Birmingham, Warwick
Children baptised in Aston - Mary 1779, Elizabeth 1780, Richard 1791, William 1795 and Ann 1799

This couple are ancestors of one of my sons-in-law through William Fowler (who I have born in 1784 rather than 1795) and his wife Hannah Powell of Dudley (1795-1878). I am aware of the extensive records in Birmingham but do not live in the area to access them so would appreciate any further information on this Fowler family that anybody has.

The Ann Fowler bn 1799 married Dr George Bodington (1799-1882), a member of the extensive Bodington family of Cubbington and Kenilworth and on whom there is much information on the internet. Ann and George were the ancestors of the lawyer Oliver Eaton Bodington (1859-1942) and of the possible double agent Nicholas Redner Bodington (1904-1974). 

William Fowler and Hannah nee Powell's eldest son William Fowler Junior (1818-1887), a land surveyor, married another member of the Bodington family, Sarah Hannah Bodington (1823-1900).