Bull family of Londown Eling

[Marpatch]

I would like to make contact with anyone researching the Bull families of Longdown, Marchwood  & Eling.
I am having problems with Charles Bull 1816 son of John Bull 1809 & Mary Shelley/ Shilley. I would like to know more about his wife and children. I have checked the Census records but there two entries who could be him.
Any help would be appreciated

[Little Nell]

Hi Marpatch,

Can I just check the dates with you, please?

John Bull married Mary Shilley in Beaulieu in 1832.  I've not managed to find a son Charles yet, but he can't have been born in 1816 

Nell

[Marpatch]

Hi Nell

Sorry Nell, in my haste I must have been looking at the wrong entry. Charles Bull  1816 parents were George Bull 1786 & Francis (Fanny) Pickett..
Regards

[Little Nell]

Can you tell me what information you already have for this family?  I've found George and Frances' marriage in 1807 but not having much luck in finding the baptisms of any children.

What are the two possibilities for Charles?  If he was born in 1816, I think I can safely rule out a marriage in 1828.

Nell

[Marpatch]

Nell,I have found
No 1. Charles Bull listed on 1851-1901 Census married to Louisa ? giving his dob as 1816 born in Bolder on 1851 census. occ farmer then dob 1821 born Beaulieu on the rest. still married to Louisa with children Clara & Thomas.
N0 2. Charles Bull 1851/61/71 census dob 1815/16 born Eling. wife Jane children, charles, betsy.jane.emma.john Occ Cordwainer.
I believe that Charles had three sisters Ellen 1826, Mary 1826, Fanny 1829 and a brother John 1809.
You are correct with his parents marriage 1807. George was born at Bolder, not sure about Francis. I was hoping to find out which Charles was the correct son of George & Francis.
I have George & Fanny on the 1841 census listing the children giving Hampshire as place of births.

Many thanks

[Little Nell]

By a process of elimination, Charles who married Louisa appears to be George's son.

He is not married in 1841, but there are two other Charles Bulls in Hampshire, both with wives named Jane.  One lives in Eling, the other in Boldre.  By 1851, Charles son of George is now married with Clara & Thomas.  The other two Charles, both with a wife named Jane, are in Eling and Boldre.  The names of the children correspond sufficiently.  The Charles living in Boldre married Jane Lancaster in 1821, children:
Charles 3 Mar 1822
Barbara 5 Oct 1823
James 30 Oct 1825
Ellen 3 Feb 1828
Emma 6 Jun 1830
Emily 5 May 1833
Eliza 5 Jul 1835
Alexander 7 May 1837                                   
Jane 2 Aug 1840

Charles living in Eling married Jane Howard in 1828, children:
Charles Robert 29 Mar 1829
Emma 13 Mar 1830
Mary Ann 30 Sep 1832
Thomas 13 Nov 1836

I cannot find the baptism of Charles, son of George, nor any of his apparent siblings except John in 1809.

There are two possible marriages that I can see for Charles son of George:

Charles Bull Dec 1844 Southampton 7 321 – Louisa Powell on same page
 or Dec 1838 Southampton 7 274 – Louisa Scammell on same page. 

Nell

[Marpatch]

Thank you Nell for your help with my query, actually all my quires in 2009. Wishing you and your family a Happy Christmas & Healthy New Year from sunny Western Australia

[JonMoore]

Have you tried http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/h/i/Martin-P-White/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0457.html ? There are a few connections made in the earlier times which I'll personally consider slightly tenuous until I've personally  seen the basis for them in their context.
I'm descended from the John BULL/Mary SHELLEY [& variants] marriage. I serendipitously found their grave the other week in Marchwood Church, and am off on Friday to get some better photos and for further investigations with more time available for the nearly illegible BULL gravestones nearby..

[Marpatch]

Thank you Jon for the photo of the grave from Marchwood, I hope that you have an interesting day on Friday and that you manage to get so more photos. I hope that the weather is favourable for your search of more of the Bull family headstones.