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Cardwell's of Dromore/Dromara
« on: Saturday 19 December 09 01:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi All,

I have hit a BRICK WALL!!!!   

I am trying to find info on a family named Cardwell from the Dromore/Dromara area.

The Husband is Robert Cardwell, Wife Unknown.
They had the following children:

Margaret Ann C1835 married to Adam Black
William John B 1839(bapt 1st Dromore Presbyterian)
Samuel B 1842 married Agnes Black
Eliza jane B1844 married to Thomas Hamilton
Robert     married Eliza Craig
Mary Ellen B 1854 married Michael Corbett/Corbitt

I am descended from William John and as luck would have it he is the only one who I can not get any info on!!!!!!

I do not have a birth date or a marriage date. 

If anyone can help I would really appreciate it and also with the name of the mother .

Thanking you,

Aljepeka
HARVEY-Drumnagoon/Seagoe/Portadown
McMURRAY,GIBSON,FITZSIMMONS-Crossmacaughley/Crossmacahilly/Moyraverty/Portadown
WOODS-Knocknamuckley/Portadown
CARDWELL,MORELAND-Dromore/Dromara/Waringstown
BOWEN-Tipperary
FREEBURN-Tartaraghan/Drumcree/Derrylard/Portadown

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Re: Cardwell's of Dromore/Dromara
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 19 December 09 03:47 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

If you go to the Ros Davies site their are several Cardwell's of Dromore listed.  Also Emerald Ancestors has Cardwells. 

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Re: Cardwell's of Dromore/Dromara
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 19 December 09 12:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi Americangirl,

Thanks so much for the reply, but unfortunately this is a real BRICK WALL!!!
 I am hoping some rootschatter has access to sources I don't .   I have been researching this family, periodically as time permits, for quite a few years.  I have a subscription to Emerald and also The Ulster Historical foundation and I think I know most of the sites online which give access to records.   I have checked (not entirely)  school records and church records of some of the neighbouring schools and have found answers to some of my queries but the stumbling blocks are :

Who did William John Cardwell marry and when??Who were his children?

Who did Robert marry?


Thanks again for your input.
Regards,
Aljepeka

HARVEY-Drumnagoon/Seagoe/Portadown
McMURRAY,GIBSON,FITZSIMMONS-Crossmacaughley/Crossmacahilly/Moyraverty/Portadown
WOODS-Knocknamuckley/Portadown
CARDWELL,MORELAND-Dromore/Dromara/Waringstown
BOWEN-Tipperary
FREEBURN-Tartaraghan/Drumcree/Derrylard/Portadown

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Re: Cardwell's of Dromore/Dromara
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 19 December 09 12:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
  Have you tried looking at the Dromore and Dromara sections at
http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com/
  Cheers,   Sam.
Cantley,   Kentley,  Green, Greene,  Boyd,  Hartley, Froud.


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Re: Cardwell's of Dromore/Dromara
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 19 December 09 14:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sam,

Yes, I have . Again I am afraid no joy as to these specific queries :(.

Some day though when I am on another quest maybe I will turn up some info.

William John I do know had a son , my great grandfather, also called William John. This William John married a lady by the name of Sarah Moreland.  I have the details of their marriage(Banbridge Registrars) and also of his death in 1925.  He was born C1860-62 .  At the time of his death his religion was Plymouth brethren.  This may account a bit for no available records but I think at the time he was born his family were either presbyterian or C of I. 

Back to the drawing board for another while!!!!

Regards,
Aljepeka
HARVEY-Drumnagoon/Seagoe/Portadown
McMURRAY,GIBSON,FITZSIMMONS-Crossmacaughley/Crossmacahilly/Moyraverty/Portadown
WOODS-Knocknamuckley/Portadown
CARDWELL,MORELAND-Dromore/Dromara/Waringstown
BOWEN-Tipperary
FREEBURN-Tartaraghan/Drumcree/Derrylard/Portadown

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Re: Cardwell's of Dromore/Dromara
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 19 December 09 15:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi Aljepeka,
                If you enter, Cardwell  Dromore  Ireland into GOOGLE, there is a lot of Cardwell's around Dromore one of them might have the answers.
bob
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Ferris   N. Ireland, Scotland, Australia and Canada
McClure    N Ireland and Wales
Gawley   Down Ireland
King    N. Ireland, Castlebellingham Eire and Canada, Dorset England
McGeown,  Lurgan  Pentland , Lurgan
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Re: Cardwell's of Dromore/Dromara
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 19 December 09 16:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bob,

Yes, I've been there , done that for several years now lol :), but still not the correct family and when it is the correct family it does not answer the queries above.  I think my only chance is to find something in a church record.
Tradition tends for the groom to marry in the brides church- in that era they normally married someone within the vicinity/neighbourhood- but my William John may be an exception to the rule perhaps he married someone not local to the area.

Thanks all the same  :),
Aljepeka
HARVEY-Drumnagoon/Seagoe/Portadown
McMURRAY,GIBSON,FITZSIMMONS-Crossmacaughley/Crossmacahilly/Moyraverty/Portadown
WOODS-Knocknamuckley/Portadown
CARDWELL,MORELAND-Dromore/Dromara/Waringstown
BOWEN-Tipperary
FREEBURN-Tartaraghan/Drumcree/Derrylard/Portadown

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Re: Cardwell's of Dromore/Dromara
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 19 December 09 19:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
 There is a William John Cardwell born 26th Nov 1842 to a William Cardwell and Margaret Chambers at Dromore, with six siblings.
Have you have definitely got the right family?
bob
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Ferris   N. Ireland, Scotland, Australia and Canada
McClure    N Ireland and Wales
Gawley   Down Ireland
King    N. Ireland, Castlebellingham Eire and Canada, Dorset England
McGeown,  Lurgan  Pentland , Lurgan
McKinley Down

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Re: Cardwell's of Dromore/Dromara
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 19 December 09 21:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bob,

I have the family of William Cardwell and Margaret Chambers pretty well documented and have even saw extracts from their family bible.  Yes, this family would be a connection but is not the family I am after.  It too as you say has a William John. But if this were  the man I was after it would have made him quite young to have fathered my Great Grandfather . Also older family members recall Mary Ellen(younger sister of William John born 1839) visiting with them. 

It is, as many who are researching their trees find  .... that the same christian names run in so many of the families which  makes for confusing deciphering of info.

While searching for my Cardwell tree I have come across several different spellings of the surname. One of which is Cardle which is how my own Great Aunt (who was Cardwell by birth) pronounced it.

Also in the Griffiths valuation the family were misrecorded as Carroll (Drummiller Townland).
I Have used the 'ask about ireland 'site to pinpoint  their location at this time and have explored the area. :)

Thanks again Bob for your input.

Aljepeka


HARVEY-Drumnagoon/Seagoe/Portadown
McMURRAY,GIBSON,FITZSIMMONS-Crossmacaughley/Crossmacahilly/Moyraverty/Portadown
WOODS-Knocknamuckley/Portadown
CARDWELL,MORELAND-Dromore/Dromara/Waringstown
BOWEN-Tipperary
FREEBURN-Tartaraghan/Drumcree/Derrylard/Portadown