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Wilkinsons 1841 Census
« on: Wednesday 16 December 09 22:06 GMT (UK) »
I'm trying to trace my GGG Grandfather Robert Wilkinson who resided in Kirkby in Ashfield (Nottingham) in the 1830's. He had Children William (1830) Mary (1833) and Samuel (1837) all shown on later census as being born in Kirkby in Nottingham.
Robert himself was born in Ticknall in Derbyshire abt 1798. By 1851 himself and the three children were in Hetton-le-Hole in Co. Durham working as a miner. By then he was a widower.
The Baptist Parish Register (Kirkby Woodhouse) has a William and Mary Wilkinson born at the right time to a Robert and Hannah Wilkinson of Portland House Kirkby in Ashfield, there was also an older son George born abt 1827. The register stops before Samuels birth date so he can't be confirmed.
What I can't find anywhere is any trace of them in the 1841 census which may help to confirm if the family in the registers is the right family. They could still be in Kirkby or have moved to Durham or be anywhere inbetween!!
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Bill

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Re: Wilkinsons 1841 Census
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 16 December 09 23:54 GMT (UK) »
There  is this Marriage on IGI

Robert Wilkinson and Hannah Woollot 3rd Sept 1827 at Kirby in Ashfield Nottinghamshire

Cannot see them on 1841 though

There are several Deaths on BMD for Hannah Wilkinson  Sunderland which is near Hetton le Hole

two of which Dec 1840 and Dec 1847.

Pam
Wragg Sheffield/Rotherham
Noble  Sheffield/Derby
Kirk     Sheffield/Northumberland
Lenton Sheffield
Ward  Deryshire
Twigg Derbyshire

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Re: Wilkinsons 1841 Census
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 December 09 00:28 GMT (UK) »
There  is this Marriage on IGI

Robert Wilkinson and Hannah Woollot 3rd Sept 1827 at Kirby in Ashfield Nottinghamshire

Cannot see them on 1841 though

There are several Deaths on BMD for Hannah Wilkinson  Sunderland which is near Hetton le Hole

two of which Dec 1840 and Dec 1847.

Pam

Thanks Pam

I've noted the marriage previously on IGI and it seems to stack up but I'm just looking to tick a few more boxes before I have it as a confirmed hit! If Hannah Woollott is the wife there is other information around which takes her branch of the tree back to the 1500's which would be excellent to have.
There are just a few niggling doubts and that's why I'm so keen to locate the family in 1841 to hopefully confirm the spouse is called Hannah.
One of the slight apprehensions I have about this being the same Hannah is that the Children are all baptised at the Baptist Church in Kirkby Woodhouse but the marriage takes place at a Church of England Parish Church in Kirkby in Ashfield, (They're next door to each other) I seem to recollect reading somewhere though that Marriages had to be performed in a C of E church at that time even if they were non-conformist.
I haven't got an Ancestry subscription at the moment but when I did there were a few different family trees claiming different destinies and spouses for Hannah Woollot. I want to claim her for myself but can't allow myself to untill I've got a positive ID!!

I've tried to track some of the deaths you've mentioned previously but without success. I think Hetton was still covered under Houghton Parish at the time but I couldn't find any records covering them. The fact they were possibly Baptists doesn't help either!!

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Re: Wilkinsons 1841 Census
« Reply #3 on: Monday 24 December 12 23:40 GMT (UK) »
Bill
I'm trying to confirm that a Robert Wilkinson (my GGG grandfather) was the father of William Wilkinson (my GG grandfather - born 1830 Kirkby Woodhouse and married a Matilda Marsh).
I've attached William's wedding certificate (bought via Ancestry.co.uk) but his father's names is bizarrely blank or erased.
Have you any idea why this could be?
From your post (many thanks) it would appear Robert is the father of William.
I'm a Wilkinson and live in Kirkby in Ashfield.
Thanks in anticipation.
Mark

Moderator comment: transcription of certificate:
27 Jun 1851 Sutton in Ashfield Nottinghamshire
William Wilkinson age 21 bachelor of Eastfield Side (father's name & occupation blank)
Mathilda Marsh age 22 spinster of Eastfield Side father John Marsh, FWK
married by banns, both signed with X, witnesses Samuel Crosland, Ruth Crosland - her mark


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Re: Wilkinsons 1841 Census
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 25 December 12 09:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mark and welcome to rootschat,
Sometimes the lack of a father's name could mean illegitimacy or in your case a family rift perhaps?   It might be worth looking for a will.
You may find that our Copyright Team remove the certificate as we only allow small snippets of copyright documents for deciphering purposes and that is a rather large chunk!   As a newcomer you will not know that.  We are a friendly lot with very few rules but that is one of them.
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Re: Wilkinsons 1841 Census
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 01 January 13 22:03 GMT (UK) »
Bill
I'm trying to confirm that a Robert Wilkinson (my GGG grandfather) was the father of William Wilkinson (my GG grandfather - born 1830 Kirkby Woodhouse and married a Matilda Marsh).
I've attached William's wedding certificate (bought via Ancestry.co.uk) but his father's names is bizarrely blank or erased.
Have you any idea why this could be?
From your post (many thanks) it would appear Robert is the father of William.
I'm a Wilkinson and live in Kirkby in Ashfield.
Thanks in anticipation.
Mark

Moderator comment: transcription of certificate:
27 Jun 1851 Sutton in Ashfield Nottinghamshire
William Wilkinson age 21 bachelor of Eastfield Side (father's name & occupation blank)
Mathilda Marsh age 22 spinster of Eastfield Side father John Marsh, FWK
married by banns, both signed with X, witnesses Samuel Crosland, Ruth Crosland - her mark


Mark,

It appears to be another branch of Wilkinsons

I believe my William Wilkinson was born in Kirkby in Ashfield in July 1830 to Robert and Hannah but Hannah died shortly afterwards and the family group moved initially close to Coalville then headed up to the North East and settled in Hetton le Hole, Co Durham. William married Elizabeth (Pearson?) and his father Robert lived with them until his death in 1878. I have each of the census returns for the family group from 1841 onwards and the later ones all confirm William born in Kirby and Robert in Ticknell , Derbyshire. Elizabeth was born in Pittington, Co. Durham

Bill