i fopund and Alfred Simmons bn 1848 no further details re him but check a census or 2 i came up with an Elizabeth Simmons aged 23 with son Alfred aged 3 and Charles aged 1 living at 90White Cross St St Luke..1861 census, i can not make out who she was with but it looks like her dad,can't read the name . then in 1861 she is with samuel Simmons but no kids ??