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Re: Dead father on birth certificate
« Reply #9 on: Monday 21 December 09 15:35 GMT (UK) »
I've an 1837 birth certificate in which the deceased father was named - even though he had died some 4 years (ahem!) before the birth :o

Now that IS a good one - none of my people have tried to get away with anything like that  :o  Lack of imagination perhaps....
Long gestation period then,  I thought it was only Elephants who carried their young a long long time.   Even they only carry them for 2 yrs.
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Re: Dead father on birth certificate
« Reply #10 on: Monday 21 December 09 15:37 GMT (UK) »
a married woman had a child bp. in Fletching and the entry reads .... s/o ...... a married woman  then a note int he margin .reads .....claims her husband to be the father however he has been serving abroad for over a year and thus that is not the case.
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Re: Dead father on birth certificate
« Reply #11 on: Monday 21 December 09 15:55 GMT (UK) »
You would have thought that she would at least have stated for the last 8 months to make it believable. ???

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Re: Dead father on birth certificate
« Reply #12 on: Monday 21 December 09 15:58 GMT (UK) »
i think the vicar knew the family
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Re: Dead father on birth certificate
« Reply #13 on: Monday 30 May 11 04:58 BST (UK) »
Image 562 of the same series of images of the baptism of Dorothy Heaviside gives the burial of her father. John Heaviside as 16 August 1830  six weeks after the baptism of Dorothy. Both the residence of Dorothy and John are given as Court Lane, Durham. John aged 41 on the burial and Schoolmaster on the baptism. However Mary Wandless, second wife of John Heaviside, did have 4 children born outside of the marriage with no known fathers. William Wandless, bap 19 August 1824, Jesuits, Durham City. Ann Heaviside, born Newcastle-upon-Tyne, 1833. Margaret and Frederick Heaviside both bap 11 May 1836, St. Oswald, Durham City.

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Re: Dead father on birth certificate
« Reply #14 on: Monday 30 May 11 11:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Barry

You are quite right and I don't know what I was thinking about when I claimed that John Heaviside died before Dorothy's christening. Ann born 1834 and the twins born 1836 were clearly born long after John died and definitely not his children. I have not found a birth record for Ann but deduced the birth year from the 1841 and 1851 census records.  The baptism of the twins was recorded in the Bishops' transcripts - Durham>Durham>1773-1869 image 638 - and both children are described as illegitimate but took the surname Heaviside.

John Heaviside produced a rich crop of descendents with many talents and it is a little frustrating that the on-line records of him are so poor. Before the marriage to Mary Wanless (Durham>Durham St Giles>1777-1857 image no. 204) he was married to Esther Palmer on 7 Oct 1819 (Durham>Durham>1773-1869 image 384) when he was described as a widower but I have not managed to trace an earlier marriage for him.

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Re: Dead father on birth certificate
« Reply #15 on: Monday 30 May 11 12:00 BST (UK) »
I have the Birth certificate and Baptism of  a child in 1903 which state name of the father and that he was deceased.

The parents were married.

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Re: Dead father on birth certificate
« Reply #16 on: Friday 17 June 11 08:21 BST (UK) »
Here is an example whre not only the father is named but the date of his death is given.  Which was fortunate because I couldn't find his burial in the parish records.

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Re: Dead father on birth certificate
« Reply #17 on: Friday 17 June 11 08:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Frank,

That registrar was following the regulations to the full extent !  How fortunate that civil registrations had commenced, and the registrar was obeying them to the letter. 

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