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Dead father on birth certificate
« on: Monday 14 December 09 11:59 GMT (UK) »
If a child's father (husband of mother) died before the child was born, would he be shown on the birth certificate?

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Re: Dead father on birth certificate
« Reply #1 on: Monday 14 December 09 12:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I don't know for sure about birth certificates but the father is often marked as 'deceased' on marriage certificates.  The one case in my tree that I can think of - Dorothy Heaviside was listed in the parish baptism records as daughter of John and Mary although John had died some weeks before the christening (Durham Bishop's Transcripts>Durham>Durham>1773-1869 image 556).

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Re: Dead father on birth certificate
« Reply #2 on: Monday 14 December 09 12:18 GMT (UK) »
Hello

Yes my father is named on my birth certifcate and he died 3 months before I was born

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Re: Dead father on birth certificate
« Reply #3 on: Monday 14 December 09 12:22 GMT (UK) »
i see Slyvia has the authority in this matter however i was just going to say that yes he would be if the woman was married - if not and the birth occured after 1875 then no because before 1875 the lady could say anyone was the faterh and he be put on teh certificate afetr 18756 the father needed to be present or a written declaration provided unless the woman was married in which case tehe baby was assuemd to be that of the husband if this was the case or not.

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Re: Dead father on birth certificate
« Reply #4 on: Monday 14 December 09 18:25 GMT (UK) »
Thanks everyone - I hoped it might be the case

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Re: Dead father on birth certificate
« Reply #5 on: Monday 14 December 09 18:39 GMT (UK) »
I've an 1837 birth certificate in which the deceased father was named - even though he had died some 4 years (ahem!) before the birth :o
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Dead father on birth certificate
« Reply #6 on: Monday 14 December 09 19:07 GMT (UK) »
I've an 1837 birth certificate in which the deceased father was named - even though he had died some 4 years (ahem!) before the birth :o

Now that IS a good one - none of my people have tried to get away with anything like that  :o  Lack of imagination perhaps....
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Re: Dead father on birth certificate
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 16 December 09 07:09 GMT (UK) »
I've an 1837 birth certificate in which the deceased father was named - even though he had died some 4 years (ahem!) before the birth :o

Now that IS a good one - none of my people have tried to get away with anything like that :o Lack of imagination perhaps....

err...  :o  err ... so were you able to figure out who the father actually was ? Did the 1841 census help with clues  ;)
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Re: Dead father on birth certificate
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 16 December 09 08:33 GMT (UK) »
I've an 1837 birth certificate in which the deceased father was named - even though he had died some 4 years (ahem!) before the birth :o

Now that IS a good one - none of my people have tried to get away with anything like that :o Lack of imagination perhaps....

err...  :o  err ... so were you able to figure out who the father actually was ? Did the 1841 census help with clues  ;)

Fortunately there was a strong clue to his true paternity, in that the baby's middle name (Moore) was the surname of the man his mother married soon afterwards.

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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)