marriage certificate.

[win291130]

My great grandmother Gwenllian Jenkins immigrated to South Australia in 1863,and married ebenezer Jones in 1865. Checking one of her childrens birth  certificate it stated she married on the 1st April  1865.Why I need the certificate is to find out where she was born in Wales UK, all I know is that she came from Swansea.
Stella

Moderator comment: more information on the background here:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,423671.0.html

[tropicalj]

That is interesting no marriage showing for this couple

will look further

JEnn

[tropicalj]

I have had a good look and cannot see a marriage recorded for this couple.

on  the 1/1/4/1865 there were a number of marriages but not one  that remotely looks like your couple


2 childrens births though


John JONES born 13/8/1865 at Kapunda  Book 36 page898
father Ebenezer Jones mother Gwen Jenkins


Mary Anne Jones born 8/9/1868 aty Kapunda  B ook 67 page 562
father Ebenezer Jones mother Gwin Jenkins 




Jenn

[cando]

I cannot find a marriage for Gwenllian/Winifred JENKINS to a Ebenezer JONES in South Australia.

Information on certificates in South Australia - marriage certificate would not give you her place of birth.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=368744.0

Births in South Australia
JONES John
13 Aug 1865
Father Ebenezer JONES   Mother Gwen JENKINS
At Kapunda  Kap 36/898
 
JONES Mary Anne
8 Sep 1868
Father Ebenezer JONES  Mother Gwin JENKINS
At Kapunda   Kap 67/562

Birth in Victoria
JONES Winifred
Father Ebenezer Mother Gwenllian JENKINS
At Sebastopol  1871   Reg#19636

From the Biographical Index of South Australian 1836-1885  Not always 100% accurate and there are errors and ommisions.

It would appear that neither of these Ebenezer's married in SA.

JONES Ebenezer born c1846 GLA WLS died after 1876. He arrived in 1864 on the Art Union   Occupation Miner, Plasterer.  Lived Adelaide.

JONES Ebenezer born c1836 GLA WLS and died after 1880  He arrived in 1860 Ramillies  He was a miner and labourer and lived at North Adelaide.   Religion - SOF.


Cando

Amended to add name.

[tropicalj]

Sorry Cando I was amending my post when you posted the same info.


A copy of  the daughter's birth in Victoria may very well give Gwen's place of birth.

Jenn

[aniph]

no marriage for them in Victoria that I can see.........thinking they might have married later...

[cando]

It seems she used both the names Gwenllian and Winifred as these are the names of the children you mentioned in the linked thread.

Births
JONES Eleazer
Father Ebenezer  Mother Winifred JENKINS
At Sebastopol  1872  Reg#26323
 
JONES William
Father Ebenezer  Mother Winifred JENKINS
At Egerton  1876  Reg#4194

JONES Ebenezer
Father Ebenezer  Mother Winifred JENKINS
At Egerton  1879  Reg#4294


Death
JONES Winifred
Father Jenkins  Mother Ann UNKNOWN
68 years at Frankston  1912  Reg#1730

On the shipping record she is listed as Gwenllean JENKINS.  As she is an assisted passenger there may be more information about her at SA Archives or SLSA.  She was the only JENKINS on the Mary Shepherd

GRG 35/48/1 Official Assisted Passage Passenger Lists 1845 – 1886


Cando

[win291130]

Hi Jenn and Cando,
It dosen ,t look as if I am going to have any luck find info. on Gwenllian,s background.
I will get the birth of  Winifred she died not long after birth.
Is it possible when they wrote up all the information from the old documents, that the marriage could have been overlooked,I suppose the place they keep old information would  still have the original documentation.
(also they may never have married)
I thought it might have stated where they lived in Wales.
Thank you both very much for all your help.
regards Estella

[PrueM]

Hi Estella,

If you can find her immigration record, it will probably - as Cando stated - contain more information about her origins, because she was an assisted immigrant.  If the records are anything like those for NSW, you will get the names of her parents, her place of residence in Wales, etc.

Cheers
Prue