Enfield Churchyard & area - PATRICK

[Wohlert Wohlers]

Hi Keyboard86,
Mary Brown Ravenhill‘s father was John Walden a farmer in Beauchamp Roding, born 1782, married to Elizabeth Brown who died 1820. Mary must have visited her family (brother?) in 1851. Are you sure it is not Alfred Whitbread? I have not looked at the census yet.
Are you a descendant of Mary? Or who do you come from?
Eiliza from yesterday is a spelling mistake‚ Eliza is right. I think she had no children.
WW

[keyboard86]

Hi again, no connection at all to my knowledge of family, just helping out researchers like yourself!

The main people on that census are:-

Joseph Asser 79 occ Gardener b Fyfield
Sarah 76 b Cambridgeshire
Edward Whitbread 24 Grandson b Essex
Maria 15 Whitbread 15 Granddaughter b Essex
John Walden 67 Married occ Farmer of 96 acres b Essex
Marianne Walden Married 60 b Harlow
Mary Ravenhill Married 45 b Harlow
Emma Rayment 25 Married
Esther Walden 23
John Walden 22
Joseph Walden 17
John Rayment 23 Married
Plus more in household if you need them later
Keyboard86

[Wohlert Wohlers]

Which house were they in? WW

[keyboard86]

Which house were they in? WW

Hi again, possibly a house but no name/number in the hamlet of Birds Green

In 1841 Joseph 69 occ Gardener and Sarah 65 are at Rectory House, Beauchamp Roothing
Census ref HO107/336/ 18/7 / 13
Keyboard86

[Wohlert Wohlers]

Hi! In 1874 a John Walden is listed as the farmer of Willis's farm in Beauchamp Roding. That must be him.
Joseph Asser and his wife and grandchildren were probably friends, the others family. Did they celebrate Marianne's 60th birthday? All the children were there including a son-in-law, John Rayment. I assume.
Now is John Mary Ravenhill's brother or her uncle? We have two pictures of her: a silhouette as a young woman and an ambrotype when she is about 60.
I can't find Willis's Farm on any map. It most likely still exists but with a different name. WW

[delphi8]

Hi Wohlert Wohlers
I think we may be related as Aaron Patrick was my 6th x great grandfather, I tried to send you a pm yesterday but I'm not sure if it sent ok. I would be really interested to find out more about the Patrick Bible you have.

Thanks 

[Wohlert Wohlers]

 Hi delphi8, did not get anything. It is not the bible but a book on the "History of the life of our blessed Lord etc etc" by Laurence Clark 1740. It belonged to Aaron's older brother Samuel and was handed then to Aaron. Who of the seven children of Aaron is your ancestor?

Hi keyboard86, I should not do calculations early in the morning! Mary went of course to see her father and stepmother Marianne in 1851. The John Walden in the directory of 1874 is probably Mary's half brother.
WW

[keyboard86]

Hi again the John Walden at Willis Farm is on 1871 there, in 1861:-

John Walden 32 occ Farmer of 90 acres b Essex
Maria 27 b Woolwich
Henery 10 b Enfield
Ellen 6 b Enfield
William 1 month b Enfield
Mercy Creed 13 Visitor b Woolwich
Henery Walden Single 30 b Essex
Residing at Walden Farm, Road by Rectory, Beauchamp Roothing
Census ref RG09/7066/33/9
Keyboard86

[delphi8]

Hi delphi8, did not get anything. It is not the bible but a book on the "History of the life of our blessed Lord etc etc" by Laurence Clark 1740. It belonged to Aaron's older brother Samuel and was handed then to Aaron. Who of the seven children of Aaron is your ancestor?

Hi, I'm related to Aaron through his son Francis. I will send you another pm, if it doesn't arrive please let me know