Warren Cottage -- Reopened

[Oaks and Acorns]

Would appreciate any help with tying down the location of this address, which I believe were a small development of Artisan Dwellings / Labourers Cottages. I have found the address listed on BMD certs and newspaper extracts listed variously as Baldoyle, Sutton, Kilbarrack and Howth. Dates are late 19th. to early 20th. century.

There were also references to Warren House, Warren Lodge and Warrenhouse Road, which I have located on maps. I believe these are connected but not what I am looking for.

I would really like to tie this address to a map location as I think it will help identify some of the in-laws and other family relatives in the area.

Dara.

[eadaoin]

Thoms 1922 shows Warren House (Hanly) and Warren Villa (Mrs Mcdowell) on the Dublin Road .. which runs East West from Sutton Cross and is South of the railway line to Howth.

This surprises me as in my Dublin Street atlas 2008, Warrenhouse Road is North of the railway and runs in a northerly direction - Warren Green is shown off this road (can't remember is it a new development, even though I drove past it yesterday - one doesn't see what one's used to!)

eadaoin

[lostallinterest]

Warren House and Warren Lodge were around what is now Binn Eadair View

http://ims0.osiemaps.ie/website/publicviewer/main.aspx#V1,724647,739851,6

pick Historic B/W option and then select the modern overlay option....

[Oaks and Acorns]

Thanks for taking the time to check that out for me and sorry if I didn't make it clear on the earlier post: I have already found Warren House, Warren Lodge and Warrenhouse Road. 

It is Warren Cottages I am looking for.

Dara.

[shanew147]

no sign of Warren Cottages in Thom's of 1894, 1904 or 1914.. just the other places mentioned.

I suspect they could have associated with Warren house or Lodge, which are adjacent. The OSI 25i map that Ralph mentioned, shows a couple of smaller buildings to the west of the Warren estate (near to the build marked Old Warren house) without any captions  that could be the estate workers' cottages. (they are labelled 341 ..345 on the map)

The road north of this is called Warren House Rd and there are other possibilities along there.. just to the north of the Railway Crossing



Shane

[Oaks and Acorns]

I had a look at the maps Ralph posted and think the 25i is maybe more promising than the B/W one. I found a reference to Corporation funds being released to build 4 cottages in Kilbarrack and the ones near 'Old Warren House' on the map may be those - but its only a guess at the moment.

I have one family in continuous occupation from 1892 to 1909 and suspect that their daughter is living in the same house after that.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000024196/

Dara.

[shanew147]

from Thom's 1914 is looks like Warren house was occupied by David Towell and family - they are listed on the census in the Howth / Burrow South (covers all of Burrow Townland in Howth Parish) townland
The Clarke household is listed in the Kilbarrick Lower in Howth DED

The 25i OSI map shows that the border between these two townlands is just to the west of Old Warren House - so these cottages are in the Burrow of Howth townland. Maybe the Clarke household is one the unmarked buildings just to the north near the railway crossing, which would be in the Kilbarrick Lower townland.



Shane

[lostallinterest]

Thanks for taking the time to check that out for me and sorry if I didn't make it clear on the earlier post: I have already found Warren House, Warren Lodge and Warrenhouse Road. 

It is Warren Cottages I am looking for.

Dara.

No problem took me all of 30 secs    I posted the link so you might be able to search for any likely unmarked cottage groups nearby

[Oaks and Acorns]

.... Maybe the Clarke household is one the unmarked buildings just to the north near the railway crossing, which would be in the Kilbarrick Lower townland.....

Thanks Shane, that seems to make a lot of sense. The cottages just north of the railway line are right at the border of Baldoyle, Kilbarrack and Burrow, Howth so at different times a local official might (without consulting a map) have recorded the address as either of the locations. It would account for the different areas recorded on the various BMDs over a 20 year period.

Dara.