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Re: Street names Dublin
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 20 December 09 20:56 GMT (UK) »
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Thank you for replying to my request.     I had looked at the irish site but in location I had typed  Dublin.   Putting in 6 Fitzwilliam Lane gave me slightly different names, one that was of interest to me.    Thank you  for putting me on the right track.
Would you know if 6 Fitzwilliam Lane was a large block of tenaments????


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« Reply #10 on: Sunday 20 December 09 21:35 GMT (UK) »
Some of the more knowledgeable rootschatters will corect me if im wrong but i think its unlikely there were tenements as Fitzwilliam Lane ran along the back of both Merrion Sq South and part of Lower Baggot St but there may have been some 2/3 storey houses which were recorded as tenements

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« Reply #11 on: Sunday 20 December 09 22:11 GMT (UK) »
not sure if the buildings were tenements exactly - but in 1911 there were about 16 buildings with over 60 families ... see Fitzwilliam Lane



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Re: Street names Dublin
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 20 December 09 22:21 GMT (UK) »
Shane its just that my Grandparents house was a 2up 2down house and they were the only family living in it and it was still classed as a tenement and the same with a couple of the neighbouring houses.


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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 20 December 09 22:23 GMT (UK) »
Shane its just that my Grandparents house was a 2up 2down house and they were the only family living in it and it was still classed as a tenement and the same with a couple of the neighbouring houses.

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Re: Street names Dublin
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 22 December 09 15:36 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for a Nicholas Carney born Dublin on Cole's Lane about 1810. His father, Peter was a coach builder there. Any info is welcomed for the name Carney. Thank you so much.
Carney, Murphy, Keenan, Hackett, Cromie, Carmichael from Belfast, N. Ireland, Dublin and Liverpool.
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« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 22 December 09 15:54 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for a Nicholas Carney born Dublin on Cole's Lane about 1810. His father, Peter was a coach builder there. Any info is welcomed for the name Carney. Thank you so much.

You can search early parish records (free) at http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/ , but I dont see a match for the baptism of Nicholas. The database is not complete yet, and more parishes are due to be added.

The date is a little bit early for any of the Thom's directories (they started publishing in 1844)...  the earliest that I have (1848), shows no Carney's or Coachbuilder entries on Cole's Lane.

Treble Almanac/Wilsons directory of 1813 show two Carney entries :

  Daniel Carney, Tallow-chandler, 126 James's St
  Terence Carney, Apothecary, 44 Queen's St

(there's no street listing in these directories)

The 1829 Wilson directory doesn't show any Carney entries in the Merchants and Traders section


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Re: Street names Dublin
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 22 December 09 16:05 GMT (UK) »
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You can search early parish records (free) at http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/ , but I dont see a match for the baptism of Nicholas. The database is not complete yet, and more parishes are due to be added.

The date is a little bit early for any of the Thom's directories (they started publishing in 1844)...  the earliest that I have (1848), shows no Carney's or Coachbuilder entries on Cole's Lane.

Treble Almanac/Wilsons directory of 1813 show two Carney entries :

  Daniel Carney, Tallow-chandler, 126 James's St
  Terence Carney, Apothecary, 44 Queen's St

(there's no street listing in these directories)

The 1829 Wilson directory doesn't show any Carney entries in the Merchants and Traders section


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Thank you so much for the info, celtic
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Bohannon from Scotland.

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« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 22 December 09 16:17 GMT (UK) »
Shane its just that my Grandparents house was a 2up 2down house and they were the only family living in it and it was still classed as a tenement and the same with a couple of the neighbouring houses.

I am not sure why the entire street is classified as 'Tenement' - in the earlier Thom's.  As you've mentioned there are single family occupied houses on the street, which I would have thought would not generally be classified as Tenements..

i.e. some of the houses seem to be bungalows, or 2 up 2 down (the ones with two windows, or 5 windows in the front), others have a single family. I would usually think of a tenement as larger building subdivided for multiple families - like 2, 4, 7, 10, 11 etc

I double checked the Thom's listings and for 1904 the street is listed as follows

  Fitzwilliam Lane - from Fitzwilliam St Lwr to Merrion St. Upr
  1 Tenements - 10 l (shillings rateable valuation)
  2 to 11 Tenements - 7 to 14 l

The listing in 1914 shows a change in the details, and possibly some new buildings :

  1a   Edwd  Brien / Patk. Brien - Cab & Car owner
  1 to 11  Tenements
  6  J. Cunningham, cab & car proprieter
  15  Daniel Doyle, car owner

It looks like some additional development was carried out between 1904 and 1911, as the census shows numbers up to 16, rather than the 11 listed in 1904


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