Street names Dublin

[helkar]

Looking for information.    How would I get if any information on who lived in what street/lane etc. in the c1880s   I am trying to confirm family names - if they are the right family.      Would there be anything like the censuses which were lost.

Thank you
helkar

[shanew147]

there's no surviving census for that era, but there directories like Thom's which include street listings. These include businesses, trades etc and many private occupants (head of household), but usually exclude occupants of tenements and cottages etc.

if you post details of names, trades or street I can look them up.



Shane

[helkar]

Hi Shanew147
Thanks for replying.
I found some 'ancestors' which I think belong to my family 
Edward Peter FITZGERALD,  bAP. 1891   19 Cumberland St. Dublin.
father was Thomas C. and mother Mary Rosanna Fitzgerald   Father was a Stonemason.
Also Arthur James, 1894.  and one I know   Michaeal 1889.

The other being  GLENNON 6 Fitzwilliam Lane,  Thomas, 1861,  Anne, 1859, Eliza 1872   Father Michael, mother Mary.  No particular trade.

Thanks for any help you may be able to give.
helkar

[shanew147]

there's two different Cumberland streets listed in Thom's of 1894

Cumberland St. Nth - from Gloucester street to Britain street (North City)

  19 Alexander Sweeny, chandler

Cumberland St. Sth - from Brunswick st to Hamilton Row (South City)

  13 to 20 Tenements (no occupants listed)

I dont see Thomas (or any other Fitzgeralds) listed in the Stonemasons section of the trade's directory which usually means  that he was employed by someone else rather than working as an independent trader or business owner.

Unfortunately numbers 6 to 10 Fitzwilliam lane are listed as Tenements in Thom's of 1863 - so no details of the occupants listed. The 1877 edition lists just two houses in the lane :

 1.  J. Bickersteth, vintner
 5.  John Singleton, horse dealer


Shane

[helkar]

Hi Shane
Thanks for trying to find my 'ancestors'      May well send for a couple of certs. to see if that would help.
helkar

[Quaxer]

Helkar

I checked my source work based on The Irish Times 1859-1901 and found no references of interest in N.& S. Cu

mberland Street or in Fitzwilliam Lane (for which I have some 50 odd references). for Glennons or Fitzgeralds.

Regards        Quaxer

[helkar]

Hi Quaxer
Thanks for looking, I'll just keep hoping
helkar

[Canuc]

I dont see Thomas (or any other Fitzgeralds) listed in the Stonemasons section of the trade's directory which usually means  that he was employed by someone else rather than working as an independent trader or business owner.

While what you say makes perfect sense and is a valid explanation I beg to differ with you slightly Shane.
If you look for William Hetherington, cabinet maker, in the last half of the 1800's to 1902 he appears in Thom's erratically. Sometimes he is under a wood working heading, sometimes at the Dublin city address (9 Fownes Street, behind Aston Quay and off of Temple Bar, where the town house and the workshop was located), sometimes at the home address (Whitehall, Crumlin) and sometimes not at all.

He certainly traded in his own name as a craftsman. Not being in the directory could also be that he didn't do anything about it that year i.e. send the form back (at all or in time). Did one pay a fee to be entered in the directory, how did "Thom" make his money? If money was tight that year who knows. All I know was that because he kept disappearing it took visits to three location to be sure I'd seen each year's directory from when I thought he started trading to when he died.

Happy hunting
Canuc

[mjb1]

Helkar. enter the irishgenealogy.ie/  site and in location type in 6 fitzwilliam lane and you might find something of help or interest to you.