Mabel May WHITFORD

[GailS]

Hello everyone,

My Great Granfather married twice, and I am looking for information on his first wife and children.

Albert Charles WHITFORD married Maggie Mary FLEMING in NZ in 1887.

Three children

1887 Madge Fleming died 1888 age 5 mnths
1888 Charles Fleming, died 1889 age 5 mnths, buried in Christchurch.
1891 Mabel May.

Unsure of when Maggie and Albert parted company, tho I think it would have been around the turn of the century as he gets together with his second wife around this time and has further children, BUT Albert and Maggie dont get divorced till 1925 which is ther date when all the second bunch of kids are registered  to.

Can anyone tell me where Madge Fleming is buried?
And can anyone tell me what happened to Mabel May? There is no marriage or death (under the name WHITFORD) on the NZ BDM.
I do know she stayed living with her Mother and was attending Mt Cook Girls Wellington school in 1904. What happened to Mabel???

Many thanks in advance for helping me with this jig saw that has half the pieces missing

Gail.

[Lucy2]

Hi Gail

I just happen to have the baptism records for these WHITFORD children (sent to me some time ago by a very kind lady in Christchurch).     I'll post them here shortly.

In the meantime, I'm pretty sure I've found "Mabel May".

There was a birth amongst those (online) for WHITFORD which showed the following :

[Search made on - BIRTHS - surname "WHITFORD"]

1958 - BENNETT - John Joseph
Mother - Mabel May         Father - N/R

[ Because that birth is showing on the Historical index, it means John Joseph was born prior to (today's date) 1909.]

AND  ...  I would be pretty confident in saying this is Mabel's death.

1962 / 32357 - BENNETT - Mabel May - 72 years (bc 1890)

Lu

[Lucy2]

Death

1972 / 26225 - BENNETT - John Joseph - d.o.b. 25 November 1909

[aniph]

There is a burial in Reefton for
Maggie Mary Whitford 9/12/1941 aged 76 yrs.

Also in the same plot, Kearns and Solomon.

http://public.bullerdc.govt.nz/cgi-bin/mksform?form=cemetery/cep

cheers
Annie

[Lucy2]

Cremation records - Karori Cemetery, Wellington

BENNETT - Mabel May - died 13 February 1962


BENNETT - John Joseph - died 1 May 1972 - 61 years (sic) ?

[GailS]

Hi Lucy2 and aniph,

wow, thank you for your info, it opens a whole heap of new avenues, though I am very curious as to why Maggie is buried with a heap of other people, and her relationship to them.

Thank you once again,

Kind regards,
Gail.

[Lucy2]

I am very curious as to why Maggie is buried with a heap of other people, and her relationship to them.

Maybe they're not related  ... possibly a "pauper's" grave ?   

Interesting  ... there's an Australian-born,  Richard WHITFORD d. 1917 on that Buller database also ?  [It was the Ocker line of WHITFORD's that I am following ... it's quite an unusual name in NZ.]

[Lucy2]

Baptism Records - WHITFORD

Charles Fleming WHITFORD

Born -  9 October 1888
Baptised - 27 March 1889
At the Cathedral of the Blessed Sacrament, Christchurch, NZ
(Ref: CBS2-2196A)
Parents:  Charles WHITFORD / Maggie FLEMING
Sponsor :  Mag. FLEMING
Sub conditione in articulo mortis
See also CBS 2-2202 *
Sponsor:  Julian WHITE
Minister :  A. H. AUBREY, SM
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[*   This may refer to the burial record - unfortunately I don't have the transcription of that.]

[Lucy2]

Baptism Record - WHITFORD

Margaret*  WHITFORD     (* "Madge')

Born - 29 July 1887
Baptised - 19 September 1887 (* Ref: RCBP2 - 360)
Parents:  Charles WHITFORD / Margaret (nee FLEMING)
Sponsor:   Lizzie SULLIVAN
Father of child, Protestant.
Minister :   M C KICKHAM  ?

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[* Not sure what the Ref: RCBP stands for ?   On the index cards at Christchurch Library, all churches have been allocated a code. ]

Edit:  On second thoughts, it may stand for Roman Catholic, Banks Peninsula?    Will check further.

EDIT:    Update posted at Reply # 16 :