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Re: birth certificate Gwellian Jenkins
« Reply #9 on: Friday 11 December 09 13:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi Estella

They might be the parents  or they might not!!  Hard to tell without further evidence!

I can't do the posting for you - you just need to do what you did here only on the Australian Requests board - but I can link this request to a new one once you've made it.

I really think that might be the best way forward for now.

Kind regards, Arranroots  ;)
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: birth certificate Gwellian Jenkins
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 13 December 09 09:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi Arronroots,
I have just put the message on the board asking for a marriage certificate, her ein Australia.
Thanks again for your trouble.
Estella

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Re: birth certificate Gwellian Jenkins
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 13 December 09 09:09 GMT (UK) »
So you have!  :D

It is here, for anyone who wants to keep track:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,424660.0.html

Will await developments!

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: birth certificate Gwellian Jenkins
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 30 December 09 08:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi Arronroots.
I messaged the South Australian Library where they have a department that look up enquiries about immigrants.
Gwenllian Jenkins left from Plymouth on 10th Jan 1863 on the Mary Shepherd arrived in Port Adelaide 19th April 1863, domestic servant and paid 10 shillings was selected by agent Jeffrey watkins reg.no of Gwenllian was D3186 glamorgan,could be Gwenllin born between Oct and dec 1843 Breconshire Mid Glam Dist.Merthur Rydfil. Volume 26 Page 377.
They seem to think as she travelled alone,it was to try for a new start in life and that her father could be unknown.
 Regards   Estella


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Re: birth certificate Gwellian Jenkins
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 30 December 09 09:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi Estella

Progress!  That sounds good!

It might be worth taking a risk on that birth certificate at this stage then.  Be aware that the registration district is Merthyr Tydfil (spelling correction).  When you have the cert you can follow that girl forward and hopefully she'll disappear at the right time!

If she lives in Swansea for a while that would be a bonus, as Merthyr is a little way away from the city.

I'll try to have another look later but a bit busy here today!

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: birth certificate Gwellian Jenkins
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 13 January 10 13:52 GMT (UK) »
Arranroots

I'm chasing Jenkins - amongst others - in the Glam area.
There's a previous thread by "jamielee" on the subject of this same Gwenllian Jenkins that drew a blank. This has a bit more info.
I've checked the 1851 Census for a Gwenllian born 1841-1845 in Glamorgan. 9 Gwennllians delivered but none with a mother named Ann. There is one "born 1843, Ystrad, Brecknockshire, parents John and Mary". All are on "Parish Relief". I note Gwenllian named 2 of her children John and Mary. 

There's another Gwenllian in "Llansamlet" which is a stone's throw from "Landore" in Swansea.

I'm puzzling what "Tatayl ford" might be, Bit more digging needed    
   

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Re: birth certificate Gwellian Jenkins
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 13 January 10 13:58 GMT (UK) »
Hello there - thanks for your thoughts.

The query isn't mine - I'm just trying to help.  Ideally, we're waiting for the OP to get back to us with details of some certificates ...

Kind regards, Arranroots  ;)
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: birth certificate Gwellian Jenkins
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 13 January 10 14:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi Arranroots,
Thank you once again for the trouble you are taking.Checked South Australia for her wedding but could not find one,I sent for one of her children,s birth certificate , this child being born in Victoria and it had more info. it stated she was married on the 1st April 1865, in SA.
I got the birth certificate thinking it may say the town she was born in ,but hard to decipher looked like Tataly Ford, I could try to send a copy to you if you think it may help.
Sincerely
Estella
win291130,
It's so difficult to read these old certs but does it look like "Ystradfodwg" - which is near Merthyr Tydfil?
 

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Re: birth certificate Gwellian Jenkins
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 17 January 10 05:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi Arronroots,
Thank you again I am just about giving up hope on finding anything on Gwenllian,s birth.
I was thinking that whoever filled  in the details ,mayhave  misunderstood the place name and wrote it as it sounded to her, this has happened to other documents I have got.
Is there such a place as tataly Ford?.
Perhaps the one you mentioned at Landore may be the one.
Here,s hoping your patience lasts for me.
Estella