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birth certificate Gwellian Jenkins
« on: Monday 07 December 09 00:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi Loljay,
My Greatgrand mother Gwenllian Jenkins immigrated from Wales to Australia in 1863,
I would like to obtain her birth certificate if possible.
On her death certificate all it states is that she came from Swansea and her mother,s name was Ann But no father,s name.
A family member thinks she was born in Llandore.
Hope you maybe able to help
Sincerely    Estella

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Re: birth certificate Gwellian Jenkins
« Reply #1 on: Monday 07 December 09 13:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Estella

Do you have a date of birth - even estimated, as Jenkins is a common name in Wales?

Kind regards, Arranroots  ;)
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: birth certificate Gwellian Jenkins
« Reply #2 on: Monday 07 December 09 21:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Arronroots,
Thank you for your quick reply, on her death certificate it stated that she was 68 years, she died in 1912,so she would have to be born about 1844.
She arrived in South Australia 1863 on the "Mary Shepherd"ship.
Sincerly.
Estella

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Re: birth certificate Gwellian Jenkins
« Reply #3 on: Monday 07 December 09 22:30 GMT (UK) »
There's only a birth registration for 1840 in West Glamorgan - unless she was registered with a different surname.

No sign of a Gwen* with a mother Ann in 1851 and there's a servant in Breconshire in 1861 but no way of telling whether that's your girl: she says born in Swansea though.

Who does she appear to be travelling with to Australia?

Is she still unmarried in 1863 and what does she call her children later on?

Kind regards, Arranroots  ;)
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)


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Re: birth certificate Gwellian Jenkins
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 08 December 09 03:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Arronroots,
Gwenllian I think travelled alone, on the shippinglist  it stated she was a servant, although I will go back and try to find the paper work again.
She was unmarried when she arrived in South Australia.but married Ebenezer Jones about a year later ,he also came out from England but earlier.
She named her children John,Mary ann,Winifred,(she was known as Winifred here),Eleazer,Ebenezer and William.
Many thanks again,
Estella     

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Re: birth certificate Gwellian Jenkins
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 08 December 09 09:08 GMT (UK) »
I will have another look later but meanwhile , what does her marriage certificate say about her parents?  Does she give an alternative maiden name or a middle name that might help to distinguish her?

Sorry to keep asking questions but the census returns don't give a perfect match, so I'm trying to narrow it down!

The names of her children are helpful, she might have other relations with names like Eleazer and Ebenezer and they suggest a non-conformist background to me.

Kind regards, Arranroots  ;)
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: birth certificate Gwellian Jenkins
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 09 December 09 02:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi Arranroots,
Thank you once again for the trouble you are taking.Checked South Australia for her wedding but could not find one,I sent for one of her children,s birth certificate , this child being born in Victoria and it had more info. it stated she was married on the 1st April 1865, in SA.
I got the birth certificate thinking it may say the town she was born in ,but hard to decipher looked like Tataly Ford, I could try to send a copy to you if you think it may help.
Sincerely
Estella

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Re: birth certificate Gwellian Jenkins
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 09 December 09 07:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi Estella

So that's Gwenllian who's born in Tataly Ford?

I think it might be a good idea to post for her marriage on the Australia board, if you haven't already done so.

I am off to have another look for her in Wales - if you do post again in Oz, make sure you say that you've already asked here please, to save duplication (link to this thread by cutting and pasting the URL if you know how, or let me know when you've posted and I'll do it for you)

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: birth certificate Gwellian Jenkins
« Reply #8 on: Friday 11 December 09 09:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Arranroots.
As I am not the best with computer will you do the posting for me.
I was looking in the "Ancestrial File " and there is a David Jenkins Born 1788 Llangfelach Glam Wales Died 1853 Landore Parents John Jenkin.Anne Catherine William-Parents .
Wife Catherine John 1793.D. 1867. John Davies, Mary John parents all buried in the Llangyfelach cemetery. woulf it be possible for these be the parents of Ann Jenkins.(or is that wishful thinking)
Thanking you,
Estella