Help please re travellers in North Yorkshire / Durham

[lanelad]

Hi Stroudie,
I will just go through your letter quickly. Pity about the witnesses being duff.
I will try and find something on Mary bro`s Johns marriage to Annes Forrest1857.
(Annes Father was Hannibal Forrest and her mother was Lavinia BURNSIDE!!!!
She is from Thomas through  to John 1770 B/A and Euphemia(var) Ulvan.
My reckoning that is!!!!!
Hannebal(Hannibal) died young i need to catch up on this bit as i havnt got them in Aycliff.
You may find Mary in connection with one of her  siblings or info on them.
the two Swales next door to Edward1841census are nearly certain to be connected to the Burnsides. i have notes somewhere. I am related to Robert Swales through his dau Eliz. married to Michael Mcdonald.
Edwards dau. Christiana later becomes Potts they are also in that street1841.
Mary is noted !!
                             Fred

[stroudie]

Thanks Fred

Oh dear, they are all so intermarried, I haven't a hope of working it out!!

Julie

[JaneyJ]

Hi Stoudie,

I don't have any marriages between Swales and Burnsides, but I do have marriages between the Gordon's and Swales and marriages between the Gordon's and Burnside(s)'s.

They all travelled in the same areas and I'm sure they must have been associated as the intermarriages show they were all closely related.

I've also got  Swales and Forrest marrying, Forrest and Hartely marrying, Forrest and Cunningham marrying, all of who also married Gordon's, Stewart's and Young's.

Like you I find sorting them all out a nightmare, the naming tradition should make it easier, but not so with the gypsy side of my family    my mistake with the Burnside/Cunningham saga being a case in point.

Jane.

[Preshous]

Hi Fred

I found John and Janes first born son, Benjamin, born 1810 in Seamer? and baptised at Hurworth in 1811.
The entry is in the BT indexed as Harworth image 49.

Gary

[lanelad]

Gary,
          I felt that this John Married to Jane was likely John b.1777 Blackwell
son of Benjamin and Ann, now you have come up with this eldest son, Benjamin, i am nearly positive it is him. Any siblings Ann?
                               Fred

[JaneyJ]

Hi Stroudie,

Just an update on marriages between Swales and Burnsides.

I knew I had something somewhere and a search through my census report, (the ones you keep..just in case...) I found the following.

Danby, Yorks Ref: RG 9/3656 1861


William SWALES:          Head, Marr, age 30, Hawker, Beadle (?) Yorks
Mary Ann SWALES:      Wife, Marr, age 29, b: Kirbymoorside,Yorks
Willaim SWALES:         Son, age 3, Yorks
Isabella SWALES:        Daug, age 2, b: South Stockton, Yorks
Henry SWALES:           Son, age 1, b:Kirbymoorside, Yorks
William BURNSIDES:     Father-in-Law, marr, age 60, Hawker, b: Sunderland, Co Durham
Elizabeth BURNSIDES:  Mother-in-Law, marr, age 55, Hawker, b: Hutton Rudby(?), Yorks
Isabella BURNSIDES:    Sister-in-Law, Unmarr, age 27, Hawker, b: Kirbymoorside, Yorks.
Sarah BURNSIDES:       Niece, age 8, b: Kirbymoorside, Yorks
William BURNSIDES:     Brother-in-Law, Marr, age 34, Hawker, b: Kirbymoorside.
Elizabeth BURNSIDES: Sister-in-Law, Marr, age 33, Hawker, b: Brompton (?) Yorks
Elizabeth PALMER;       Visitor, Unmarr, age 18, Hawker, b: Kirbymoorside.

I've not been able to link any of these to my lot yet, but hope they are useful to someone else.

Yours Jane.

[mikizz]

hi i have burnsides on 1861 cesus travelling with william and martha cunningham.brampton bierlow yorks.old moor in tents.william age 43 b 1818.mary a 44 b1817.  susanna 19  b1842.  violet 18 b1843.  magalana 16  b1845. isabella 14 b 1847.  richard 12 b 1849.  jane 7 b 1854.  mary 5 b 1856. anne 3 b 1858. william 1 b 1860. hope this will help.

[mikizz]

i also have photo of issacc and ada francis ( ne lee)  . son oliver married isobella burnside. taken approx 1920 stockton portrack. do not know issobellas details but son tony died couple of years ago . he was in his sixties.

[Preshous]

Fred

The entry for marriage of John & Jane does not yield any useful information. I would agree that this John is highly likely to be the one born at blackwell in 1777 to Benjamin. No sign of an Ann as yet.

Hi Mikizz welcome to RootsChat. Thanks for the information. It would appear that Burnside & Cunningham inter marry.


Gary