Help needed to understand a birth entry!!

[laura24]

Hi

I have recieved a birth certificate this morning, but unfortunately it has left me rather confused!!

The certificate is for George Smallshaw 1853, his parents are Ann and George Smallshaw.

However, under the mothers name it says:

Ann SMALLSHAW, late TUTE formally GREENHALGH

I know here name was Ann Tute when she Married George Smallshaw in 1850, but have searched for an Ann Greenhalgh marrying a TUTE but now luck, also tried the other way Ann TUTE marrying a GREENHALGH but blank again.

I have carried out the search through FreeBMD, but records only start from 1837. However, i believe here birth to be around 1823 from Census info.


Can anyone help me untangle this??

Laura

[PaulineJ]

Where in  Lancs are we on about?

[netgrrl79]

It may be... I'm sure someone will be along to correct me if I'm wrong... that Ann's parents weren't married when she was born but did marry shortly after the birth, so she could have been originally registered under GREENHALGH (if that was her mother's maiden name) but then was re-registered as TUTE when her parents married???

Hope that helps

Katie

[PaulineJ]

The marriage was at MANchester Cathedral. You could get a copy from the parish records which could help a bit.

[jds1949]

I'm pretty sure that it means that she was married before. I read it as she was born and christened as Ann Greenhalgh, she then married a man with the surname Tute and now she is married to George Smallshaw.

The fact that you haven't found a record of a Greenhalgh - Tute marriage is strange, but then it's not unknown for some marriages to be very difficult to find for one reason or another.

jds1949

[Luzzu]

Hi,

The George Smallshaw/Ann Tute marriage took place on 13 Oct 1850 at Manchester Cathedral and I believe Ann was a widow and her father was William Greenhalgh.   The witnesses were Robert Smallshaw and Elizabeth Smallshaw.

This information would need to be confirmed with the certificate though -

Dec 1850
Manchester 20 464

Why there is no record of the Greenhalgh/Tute marriage is a bit of a mystery though.

Luzzu

[mshrmh]

I agree that the normal interpretation is that Ann has been married before - sight of the marriage certificate would confirm this.
I don't know if this is the case but along the lines of Katie (netfrrl79) - could it be that she was born as Greenhalgh but that her mother later married Mr Tute and she was known by his (her stepfather) surname? Such a  marriage could have been when she was a young child & would only show up on PRs.

[jds1949]

If it was Ann's mother who married Mr Tute, then here is a possible candidate from Lancashire OPC:
Baptism: 7 Sep 1823 St Anne, Tottington, Lancashire, England
Ann daughter of Alice Greenhalgh, weaver, bastard,
born 20 Nov 1822

So, if anyone can find a marriage between Alice Greenhalgh and the mysterious Mr Tute, we could have our answer.

jds1949

[Luzzu]

Would it help if we tried to find her in 1841?

Easier said, than done though  .

Luzzu