Does Collins Lane, Cork City, still exist?

[Keith Sherwood]

Shane,
Thanks very much for that, and I would imagine that Hillgrove Lane is the original if it's retained the same name...
I suppose I ought to be starting another thread on here to ask this question, but do you know - or anyone else who might read this - whether the 1911 Irish Census is searchable on line by a known address.  Would be good to discover possible details of both the bride and groom's family the year before the wedding, if indeed they were there by then.  Both families lived at number 5...
Regards, keith

[shanew147]

you can search for an address using google - e.g. to search for streets named 'Collins Lane' use a search like :

"collins lane" site:http://census.nationalarchives.ie/

Shane

[Keith Sherwood]

Shane,
That was a lightning reply!  I'll give that link a go, many thanks again,
keith

[mazzm]

Hello Keith,

I'm not sure if it would be correct to assume that all lanes were swept away.  I think there are still some lanes in the city center. One that comes to mind is Carey's Lane, of course that might be gone now as well.

I searched the maps but was unable to find Walsh's Lane or Hillgrove Lane but there are a lot of lanes with no names on the map so they could have been there without being named.  Shane could be correct with the Hillgrove Lane he identified as it is off Watercourse Road which is all pretty much in the same area.

I checked the census and Walshes Lane and Hillgrove Lane are both in Cork Urban District 4 as well.

I googled Walsh's Lane Cork City and found a pdf document called CP List of Street Traders 1928 and found a woman listed in there who lived at 8 Walsh's Lane and it said her trading area was Old Market Place, Cattle Street & Cattle Market Avenue.  The 3 locations are right next to Collins Lane off Shandon Street.

If you click on the following link you will find that Walshes Lane and Old Market Place are listed as one and Hillgrove Lane is listed as Watercourse Road.
http://www.corkpastandpresent.ie/places/streetandtradedirectories/1913citycountyalmanacanddirectoryguys/1913cityindex/#W

I'm not sure if you found the maps in the last link I sent you but if you follow this link it will show you where Collins Lane and the rest of the lanes listed above are. 
http://www.corkpastandpresent.com/mapsimages/goadplansofcorkcity/goadplans1915revisions/
Open up the map that says Goad 1915 key plan and zoom in on the top left hand side of the map, find Shandon Street and you'll find them.

Are you saying that both families lived at 5 Collins Lane, 5 Walsh's Lane or 5 Hillgrove Lane?

Walshes lane census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?surname=&firstname=&county=Cork&townland=%22walshes+lane%22&ded=&age=&sex=&submit=Search

Hillgrove Lane census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?surname=&firstname=&county=Cork&townland=%22hillgrove+lane%22&ded=&age=&sex=&submit=Search

Collins Lane census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?surname=&firstname=&county=Cork&townland=%22collins+lane%22&ded=&age=&sex=&submit=Search

Good luck
Mary

[Keith Sherwood]

Mary,
My goodness, how busy you've been on my behalf!  And thank you so much for all this wonderful information, bringing the City of Cork of the early part of the 20thC gloriously to life again.  I had a family holiday in the area (stayed at a B and B in Blarney) a couple of summers ago.  A pity I wasn't on this line of enquiry then, as I could have had a good look around Cork City myself, as well as visiting the archives there.
Anyway, those links you have provided are fascinating, and I have a much better idea now of the geography of the place 100 or so years ago...
Very best wishes, keith
NB Forgot to answer your last question, and yes I did find a couple of family members that I was searching for at 5, Hillgrove Lane, but none of the bride's family at 5, Walsh's Lane...K

[celtic liberty]

Hi Keith,

I have a book "The Laneways of Medieval Cork" by Gina Johnson.

In this book St. Lawrence's Lane is also referred to as Collins Lane as there was a salt & lime works there originally owned by William Deane(1802) then owned by Deane, Susan & Allen as per Pigot's directory 1824.  And following that operated by
Mark Collins & Richard F. Waddy(1840's). This partnership dissolved in 1843 and Collins took over the business.  Collins was the father of Jerome Collins, the famous "weather Prophet" the antartic explorer who died in the antartic and is burried in Curraghkippane cemetary in Cork.   In 1852 the works were still owned by Deanes but operated by Mark Collins. In  1867 the lime works was owned by Mrs. E. Collins and the Collins name was so well connected to the area that St. Lawrence's lane was then known as Collins Lane.  It was located near Christ Church on South Main Street.  It was adjacent to Morgans Lane. 

It would seem that St. Lawrences was a tiny chapel attached to Christ Church on South Main Street adjacent to South Gate.  There is a bridge now called South Gate Bridge and Beamish & Crawford had a large brewery there up to June of this year when it sadly closed.

Have a look at Cork past and present again for South Gate bridge and Christ church lane.

Hope this helps
Mary

[Keith Sherwood]

Mary,
That's wonderful, and thank you so much for putting all this colour and background onto this thread for us!  I do love to know as much as is possible of the stories surrounding the locations of where our ancestors lived...
Cork City in the 19thC is beginning to come alive with the people who lived, worked and died there.  Very many thanks...
Regards, keith
P.S. Sorry to hear about the brewery closing last year, too..

[celtic liberty]

I will be in the City during the week and will have a look to see if there are any remnants of those lanes.   

Recently the Cork City Council placed Brass Place names on the footpaths of the different lanes as they were in the past.  Mostly around South Main Street and North Main Street.

If I get anything extra I will be on here again.

Mary

[Keith Sherwood]

Mary,
That would be just great...!
keith