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Re: Does Collins Lane, Cork City, still exist?
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 15 December 09 17:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi Keith,
The Collins lane I referred to is not your Collins Lane.

My one is St. Lawrence Lane and know locally as Collins Lane - not the official Collins Lane.

I was in Library today and found some info on both Walshs Lane and Hillgrove Lane ( from a book by Gina JOhnson) but nothing on Collins Lane

Walshs Lane
In the 1960's the remaining houses on Walshe's Lane were cleared for construction of the old Blackpool flats, which were in turn demolished in the late 1990's. Walshe's Lane was the northern most four terrace-lined lanes that once led off the east side of Thomas Davis Street. Like the other lanes on the east side Walshe's Lane was residential and by the mid 19th century there were 18 properties on the lane, 11 of which were owned by a Timothy O'Flynn.
There are lots of theories as to who the lane is called after - a Lord Mayor Walsh, A chaplain in North Cathedral , a Thomas Walsh a leather seller in Shandon Street of aWilliam Walsh a clothier from Blarney Street.

Hillgrove Lane( also known as Bulldog Lane)

In 1801 the lane extended to lead from Britain Street ( now Gerald Griffin Street) to Duke Street ( Watercourse Road).  The lane seem to have been named  after two brothers Thomas & Joseph Hillgrove who owned a property on the land. By 1852 there were at least 13 properties, mostly houses, along Hillgrove Lane, 11 of which were owned by Mary Byrne.  The residential population on the lane remained into the mid 20th century, when the lane was known as Bulldog Lane.  Recently constructed houses now overlie most of the lane, but the entrance and a short stretch of the lane off Gerald Griffin Street survive.

Sorry I can't help with Collins Lane.

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Mary

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Re: Does Collins Lane, Cork City, still exist?
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 16 December 09 10:56 GMT (UK) »
Mary,
Sorry it's taken me a while to respond to your excellent history/geography lesson on the evolution of some of Cork City's lesser-known lanes!  I think Bulldog Lane a far more evocative way of naming where someone lives, rather than using the name of the person who built the first dwellings...
Many, many thanks for this, and I know from PM's I've had from people living the other side of the world now, that all this fascinating additional detail on Cork in the past is much appreciated by other people as well as me.
regards, keith

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Re: Does Collins Lane, Cork City, still exist?
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 16 December 09 16:45 GMT (UK) »
You're welcome, hope I am not giving you too much details.  I live in Cork and find history of people and places facinating. 

It's nice to be able to help!!

Let us know if you want any more local knowledge.

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Mary
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Re: Does Collins Lane, Cork City, still exist?
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 16 December 09 17:14 GMT (UK) »
Mary,
I'll almost certainly be picking your brains again in the very near future as the family I'm looking into in 19thC Cork City becomes less shadowy...!
keith


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Re: Does Collins Lane, Cork City, still exist?
« Reply #22 on: Friday 01 January 10 18:57 GMT (UK) »
I took some photos today of Hillgrove Lane. I couldn't send them here because file was too big so if you would like to see them send me a PM and I can email them to you

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Re: Does Collins Lane, Cork City, still exist?
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 02 January 10 00:10 GMT (UK) »
Mary,
That's brilliant, and so kind of you...I'll PM you now,
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Re: Does Collins Lane, Cork City, still exist?
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 03 June 10 17:12 BST (UK) »
Mary (Celtic Liberty),
I've managed to locate this thread again, having had the fact that the 1901 Irish Census is now on line flagged up for me...
So, the KEPPLE/KEPPEL family that I have been trying to trace were at 6, Peacock Lane in 1901.  Does THIS little lane still exist, and was/is it in the same kind of location in Cork Cityas Collins Lane?
Very best wishes, keith
N.B. I see that in 1824 there was the Magdalen Asylum for "The reformation of penitent deluded females" in Peacock Lane.  Whatever did they mean by that...?

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Re: Does Collins Lane, Cork City, still exist?
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 03 June 10 19:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Keith,

Nice to hear from you again.

I am not sure if the actual lane of Peacock Lane still exists It possible does.  St Vincents is still there and is now a renowned secondary school.

If you google Magdalen Laundries in Ireland you get all the sad history of those terrible places.  They seemed to be exclusive to Ireland. 

I might be in that area soon and can certainly take some photos and send them on to you.  I still have your details.

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Re: Does Collins Lane, Cork City, still exist?
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 03 June 10 19:25 BST (UK) »
Mary, hi again!
I would be most grateful if you could investigate Peacock Lane for me too.  I really appreciated you sending me those photos earlier in the thread...
regards, keith