Laughlins

[gaffy]

Just a couple of possibilities for children's marriages

- Catharine Laughlin, daughter of an Alexander Laughlin (a mason), married William Fleming on 3 March 1852 in Antrim Old Presbyterian Church, her address was Antrim (town);

- David Loughlin, son of an Alexander Loughlin (a mason), married Elizabeth Kelly on 14 May 1866, he was 25, both living in Monkstown just north of Belfast (edited to add: just over a mile north of Whitehouse, where Henry Laughlin and Elizabeth Kerr had a son William Henry on 2 February 1867).

[alaughlin1876]

Hi
The James Laughlin (stone mason) may be a brother of my great grandfather Henry. I have not been able to find a connection other than they both had a father called Alexander. I have visited Carnmoney graveyard hoping to find my great grandfather's grave but was not successful. However I did see James Laughlin and his wife Margaret's grave (also a daughter buried with them). Their grave is on the same site as the church - to the right hand side of the church as you look at it from the road.
How do you think you might be related to these Laughlins?
I have found it difficult to find connections in this family. My great grandfather was born in 1838 although his parents  (Alexander and Esther) were married in 1824. So I have always assumed there might have been earlier siblings and James along with a few others would seem to fit. If you have any other information I would love to hear from you.
Regards
Mo

I'm searching for my great- and great-great paternal grandparents.   I have a copy of my great-grandparents' marriage record.  According to that record, my great-grandfather, James Laughlin, was a bricklayer, and married Elizabeth Galbraith in 1876 at St Anne's, Shankill.  The record says he was 24 at the time of his marriage, meaning he was born circa 1852.  The record also shows that his father, my great-great-grandfather, was also named James and was also a bricklayer.  I can't find a birth record c1852 for James Laughlin, although I have found a baptism record for a James Loughran, baptised at St Anne's Shankill in 1855.  I can't find my great-grandparents James and Elizabeth Laughlin (and variant spellings) in either the 1901 or 1911 Census of Ireland.  There's a listing in the 1901 Census for a James and Margretta Laughlin and children at 5 Arlington St; James (a bricklayer) is about the right age to be my great-great-grandfather, but I can't find a firm connection.  The only hint I have is a beautiful small card sent from Ireland to my grandfather in the US and signed "Annie."  There's a daughter Annie listed in the 1901 census at 5 Arlington St.  So the short answer to your question is that I'm not at all sure I'm related to the James Laughlin, stone mason, son of Alexander.  It's a line I'm pursuing to see if this might be my great-great-grandfather.

[aghadowey]

For reference, here's the link to Laughlins in 1901:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Dock_Ward/Arlington_Street/935198

1907 & 1908 directories- James Laughlin still at 5 Arlington St. but 1910 shows different occupant:
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/acomplete1907_3.htm
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/acomplete1908_3.htm
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/acomplete1910_b.htm

Three of the children, Annie, Thomas & Catherine, here in 1911:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Clifton/Cavehill_Road/171276
Thomas Laughlin listed in 1910 directory:
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/alphanames1910L.htm

[Mo37]

Hi Gaffy

      (Just to note the following Church of Ireland baptisms, the address for all is Antrim (town), the parents are Alexander and Esther Loughlin, his occupation is mason in all bar one: Esther Loughlin 28 September 1828; Catherine Loughlin 25 December 1830; Anne Loughlin 28 April 1833 (father Alexander's occupation = nailer); Matilda Loughlin 16 August 1835; David Loughlin 17 May 1840; Thomas Loughlin 12 November 1843.)

You posted these C of I baptisms all in Antrim town. Was there one for Henry? He was born 24th March 1838. I have him born in Cloughfern Whiteabbey. I also have his parents as Alexander and Esther who were married in Miltown Presbyterian Church in Antrim in 1824. Perhaps I've been looking at the wrong parents for Henry!! There is a churchyard in Antrim Town just opposite Miltown church but it is not open to the public. Would you know if this is a Church of Ireland Church?
Thanks
Mo

[alaughlin1876]

For reference, here's the link to Laughlins in 1901:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Dock_Ward/Arlington_Street/935198

1907 & 1908 directories- James Laughlin still at 5 Arlington St. but 1910 shows different occupant:
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/acomplete1907_3.htm
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/acomplete1908_3.htm
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/acomplete1910_b.htm

Three of the children, Annie, Thomas & Catherine, here in 1911:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Clifton/Cavehill_Road/171276
Thomas Laughlin listed in 1910 directory:
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/alphanames1910L.htm

Thanks!  I have this information, but so far haven't found a definitive birth certificate for this James Laughlin, nor death records for him or for his wife.

What's very puzzling to me is that I can't find my grandparents, James and Elizabeth (Galbraith) Laughlin in either the 1901 or 1911 census.  The last records I can find for them are for  1879 and 1880:  a record of the birth and death of their son Goldwin Laughlin in 1879, when they were living at 57 Barrow St; and a listing in the 1880 directory for the same address (name spelled Loughran in the directory).  I know that Elizabeth Galbraith Laughlin at least was alive into the 1920s or 1930s, because I have copies of cards sent from her to my grandfather in the US, but I can't find any records.

Perhaps someone can help me solve the mystery of where my grandparents might have been during the censuses?  Also, can anyone enlighten me on the variant spellings Laughlin and Loughran?  The surname of my forebears appears as Laughlin in most records - on my great-grandparents marriage record,  on the birth records of my grandfather's siblings, Elizabeth and Goldwin, and on Goldwin's death record.  But my grandfather's surname is given as Loughran on his birth record, although he himself always spelled it Laughlin.

Thanks for any help or ideas!

[aghadowey]

Back to the Arlington St. Laughlin family- this might be the same family:

James Laughlin, son of Alexander, m.(1855 Belfast) Margaret Gribben, daughter of James
     marriage- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGXD-7Z4
Margaret (1864) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRQT-XHV
Thomas (1866) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F55F-HX7
Nancy (1869) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5D5-S48
Catherine (1872) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F58G-T7G

Was typing the above while you were posting so-
so far haven't found a definitive birth certificate for this James Laughlin
Civil registration of births started in 1864 so there will be no birth certificates for anyone born before this date

[aghadowey]

You posted these C of I baptisms all in Antrim town. Was there one for Henry? He was born 24th March 1838. I have him born in Cloughfern Whiteabbey. I also have his parents as Alexander and Esther who were married in Miltown Presbyterian Church in Antrim in 1824. Perhaps I've been looking at the wrong parents for Henry!! There is a churchyard in Antrim Town just opposite Miltown church but it is not open to the public. Would you know if this is a Church of Ireland Church?

Graveyard map for Co. Antrim- you can filter by religion:
http://www.historyfromheadstones.com/index.php?antrim

See also the Council's list of graveyards under their care:
http://www.antrimandnewtownabbey.gov.uk/Residents/Cemeteries

[alaughlin1876]

Back to the Arlington St. Laughlin family- this might be the same family:

James Laughlin, son of Alexander, m.(1855 Belfast) Margaret Gribben, daughter of James
     marriage- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGXD-7Z4
Margaret (1864) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRQT-XHV
Thomas (1866) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F55F-HX7
Nancy (1869) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5D5-S48
Catherine (1872) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F58G-T7G

Thanks again.  I do have all this information.  However, I cannot find any documents that show that this James and Margaret had a son named James, so cannot find any proof that they are my elusive great-great-grandparents.  If they are not, then I cannot find either my great-great nor my great-grandparents in the 1901 or 1911 censuses.  So I lack any hints or trails that would help me to continue research.  Any ideas, anyone?  I would appreciate any help.

Was typing the above while you were posting so-
so far haven't found a definitive birth certificate for this James Laughlin
Civil registration of births started in 1864 so there will be no birth certificates for anyone born before this date

Thanks again.  I do have all this information.  However, I cannot find any documents that show that this James and Margaret had a son named James, so cannot find any proof that they are my elusive great-great-grandparents.  If they are not, neither my great-great nor my great-grandparents seem to be in the 1901 or 1911 censuses.  So, with no birth registration or census information,  I lack any hints or trails that would help me to continue research.  Any ideas, anyone?  I would appreciate any help.