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[Ceeoh]

Hi,
Marriage details re Ambrose and Isabella - perhaps we could put a lookup request on for St Helen's Kelloe - ask if SKS could check the entry for the witnesses.

Any idea where these records would be kept?

Took a flyer to see who Mary's lodgers were on the 1901 census, thought there may have been a familliar name, nothing here that rings a bell:
Robert Lloyd,   widower  52  gardener  born London
John Olford  single  37  bricklayers labourer  born Eston
Margaret Nelson  widow  70  seamstress  born Scarborough
John Haley  single  37  general labourer  born Sligo Ireland
Charles Ropson  single  49  general labourer  born Thornaby
Richard Jones  single  63  general labourer  born Cardiff
Thomas Wilsom  single  42  general labourer  born Leeds
George W Jenkes  widower  45  general labourer  born Guisborough
William M Dodgom  single  54  joiner  born Kirby Moorside
William Smith  married  66  general labourer  born Bristol Glos.  Couple of Smith who I presume
Ann Smith  married  66  born Huddersfield                                  to be married to each other
George Wilson  single  49  mariner  born Sandsend Yks
Frank Winspear  single  70  miller  born Newsome Yks
John Grame  single  64  general labourer  born Barnsley

This is from the transcription not the image so there may be misspellings in some of the names



Margaret

[alpinecottage]

As well as these lodgers, Charles and Mary had their 10 yr old grandson , Charles A J Mullen , born Grangetown, Yorks. living with them at time of 1901 census.  There is a  birth reg Middlesborough Mar Q 1891 - Charles Alexander T Mullen.  I note this Charles doesn't appear to be mentioned in the will, but doesn't seem to have died before 1906 either

[Spidermonkey]

Charles A T Mullen died in Sept qtr 1952 in Middlesbrough.  Does that rule him in or out 

[Ceeoh]

The "John" Alexander Mullen mentioned in Mary's Will is actually Charles Alexander Mullen (his father was John who died before this child was born).  I think he was known as "Allick".  As far as I can make out he is still alive in 1911.

Violetta daughter of John and grandaughter of Mary mentioned in the Will was known variously as Vietta, Violetta and Violet, she was baptsied Vietta.  I do not know why she was specifically mentioned in the Will as Mary had dozens of grandchildren!! However, she may have been looking after a younger sister ??

The other two : Eliza Grout daughter of Charles her father died in the mines, and Charles A T MUllen(John) father died before he was born - and was born when his mother was only sixteen - presumably that is why those two in particular are mentioned.

Margaret

[Ceeoh]

Thanks spidermonkey - this will be "Allick" Charles Alexander Thompson Mullen 1952.  I didn't have a date for his death.  That would make him about 62.  Definitely rules him in as far as the Will is concerned!

Margaret

[Spidermonkey]

Good, glad he's still in!

Mary's son Joseph - was he the one with middle initial W?  Am looking at deaths at the moment to see if I can find a likely candidate.

[Spidermonkey]

Deaths for Joseph W Smith bn 1853 +/- 5 years, in Yorkshire.

Joseph William Smith bn 1849 d 1908 Leeds
Joseph W Smith bn 1853 d 1915 Wharfedale
Joseph W Smith bn 1857 d 1906 Burnley

[Ceeoh]

Joseph was still around in 1901 - see census details previous page - in Allerton Bywater.  1906 he is in his mother's Will and is referred to as Joseph (no W).  1871, 1891, and 1901 he doesn't use the W so we don't know if this was a red herring when he married Margaret Lynn, or did he really have a father Joseph W(Wingrove, Wingrave) Smith.  If so we never found him!!  Going by where his children were born - and he seems to keep changing his mind about that as well as how old he is - the family moved around.

To ascertain if he is one of the three you give would mean buying certificates I think, to see who registered the death - but that's no guarantee that it was one of the family.

I haven't has yet looked for him aged between 53 and 63, in 1911. 

I rather think the W part was added in to make him "legitimate".  His wife was very young when they married - only 16 I think.

Margaret

[Ceeoh]

Hi Stroudie

Have a look at   http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,411479.30.html

there is some Burnside data on there in reply to a question I asked preshous who is researching the Burnside.

Have put a request on Durham lookup requests to see if anyone is going to Durham Record Office who would look at Ambrose/Isabella marriage and tell us who the witnesses were.

Margaret