Ceeoh's Scavenger Hunt...Everyone Welcome To Join In

[stroudie]

I've just been looking at the travellers board on Rootschat and I'm fascinated by the whole use of names issue. It appears from quick scanning that change of name and avoidance of formalities regarding registration of birth and marriage are common. Children or male partners may often take the woman's name and having a child together is regarded as a marriage. I think this may go a long way towards explaining the difficulties we are encountering.

I'm going to post a link to this scavenger hunt there and see if anyone has more specialist knowledge.

[stroudie]

I'm on a roll now!

Have a look at this

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,254942.0.html

[heywood]

I was just in the middle of posting that I thought it was a good idea re travellers board because even though there is no real proof as yet, the family seems to be touched by hawkers etc in several ways.
I was also going to add that I wonder whether it would be feasible to find the witnesses at Ambrose and Isabella's marriage to see if there was a clue there but they were married in 1849 and depending on Mary's age, she may not be old enough.
Let's hope the roll continues 

[stroudie]

Hello Heywood

What a good idea. I have just emailed a correspondent who is a Burnside descendant and is in contact with several others. I hope either he, or someone he knows may have seen this certificate.

Fingers crossed.

[Ceeoh]

Hi, this is fantastic.

I think heywood has a good idea in trying to find out the witnesses at Ambrose and Isabella's marriage.  Stroudie - hope your contact has the answer to this one.  It's beginning to look as if Mary and Ambrose could have been brother and sister!  If Mary was born 1831 she would have been old enough to be a witness at Ambrose's marriage (18)

How did you create the link?  Perhaps I should link my query but don't know how to do it!!  I was going to enlarge on it but having seen this it might be better to do the link instead.

Margaret

[stroudie]

Hi Ceeoh

According to my correspondent, yes Ambrose is brother to Mary Burnside;
"children of Edward and Sarah

  Edward b 1824 Aycliffe d 1847 Guis

  Jonas b 1826 Aycliffe Iron miner

  Ambrose b 1829 Deighton, Northallerton occ hawker m Isabella Gordon b 1824

  Mary b 1831 Guis

  Benjamin b 1834 Guis Pottery hawker

  John b 1837 Guis d Easington Lane 1914 Wire screen hawker

  Sarah b 1840 Guis

  Isabella b 183 Guis

  Joseph b 1846 Guis General "

I also note Hovingham; A parish in the wapentake of Rydale; 7 miles from Helmsley, 8 from Kirkby Moorside, 9 from Malton, 19 from York.

To create link. Go to the page copy the http address from the  navigation toolbar at the top and paste it where you need it to be seen

[heywood]

Hi everyone,

we had this link earlier in thread when the Burnside (s) family were in Guisborough.
There are some Mary Burnside deaths and marriages I think which with a common name and with the family moving between the two counties could be her and then ... 
I do hope someone has some info for Mary.

heywood

[regross]

Stroudie,

What a great find on the travellers board

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,254942.0.html

Burnside and Ambrose and in the right part of the country

Nice to see that you have seen the parralells in record keeping to your family, it was this that made me suggest the travellers board. There are lots of interesting threads and now I am wonndering if some of my brickwalls may also be because of a trveller connection, right names and riht geography so now to explore that possibilty.

regards and good hunting

Robyn

[stroudie]

I have details for marriage of Ambrose and Isabella from my correspondent, but it does not include witnesses.

Apparently Durham marriages are available online.

"Isabellas father was Alexander Gordon (Potter)
Kelloe St. Helens 12feb1849 Ambrose Burnsides bach. coalminer minor of Ox close Coxhoe son of Edward Burnsides(Potter) m Isabella Gordon spins. minor"

There is also a reply to my post on the travelers board from Jane who has Burnside links. Note the name is sometimes spelled with an S on the end.

So...watch this space...