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Offline GrahamH

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Re: I wonder if Ancestry and Findmypast have an agreement re copyright..
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 24 December 09 11:38 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the clarification Guy.

Just to put the whole thing to bed.
If TNA supplies a photocopy of an original form (i.e. a photocopy created by TNA) isn't it the case that copyright, held by TNA, applies to that photocopy?

That would be equivalent to Brightsolid online publishing holding the copyright of the digital images.

Thus, isn't it the case that it would be breach of TNA's copyright for anyone to scan a photocopy and publish the scan online without permission from TNA?

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Re: I wonder if Ancestry and Findmypast have an agreement re copyright..
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 24 December 09 12:14 GMT (UK) »
No  making a photocopy does not create the conditions required to copyright a work.
The digitising may as expertise and further processing is used to create the digital copy (in the same manner as taking a photograph).

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Re: I wonder if Ancestry and Findmypast have an agreement re copyright..
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 24 December 09 12:27 GMT (UK) »
Just one more thing, Guy!

If I have made copies of 1911 schedules at TNA, there is nothing to prevent my making my own transcriptions of these available in response to look-up requests.  Would you say that is correct?
UK census content is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk  Transcriptions are my own.

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Re: I wonder if Ancestry and Findmypast have an agreement re copyright..
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 24 December 09 13:31 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Guy Etchells on Thursday 24 December 09 12:14 GMT (UK)
No  making a photocopy does not create the conditions required to copyright a work.
The digitising may as expertise and further processing is used to create the digital copy (in the same manner as taking a photograph).

Cheers
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Thanks Guy. Don't eat too many mince pies now  ;)

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Re: I wonder if Ancestry and Findmypast have an agreement re copyright..
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 24 December 09 19:37 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Sloe Gin on Thursday 24 December 09 12:27 GMT (UK)
Just one more thing, Guy!

If I have made copies of 1911 schedules at TNA, there is nothing to prevent my making my own transcriptions of these available in response to look-up requests.  Would you say that is correct?

That is correct.
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Re: I wonder if Ancestry and Findmypast have an agreement re copyright..
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 21 January 10 15:11 GMT (UK) »
How do you search photos on Ancestry? I've never seen this search facility.

thanks

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Re: I wonder if Ancestry and Findmypast have an agreement re copyright..
« Reply #15 on: Friday 22 January 10 09:07 GMT (UK) »
go to list all databases and scroll to find public member photos

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Re: I wonder if Ancestry and Findmypast have an agreement re copyright..
« Reply #16 on: Friday 22 January 10 09:11 GMT (UK) »
Thanks very much - I'll give it a go, although Ancestry seems to be down right now (seems an increasingly regular occurrence).

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Meara/O'Meara: Middlesex, Hampshire, Ireland
Collins: London, Hampshire, Manchester
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Stanton: Middlesex
Eaves: Middlesex
Irons: Middlesex

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Re: I wonder if Ancestry and Findmypast have an agreement re copyright..
« Reply #17 on: Friday 22 January 10 09:25 GMT (UK) »
Thats Ok - was going to give more detail but coudnt get on to try it.

You need to get where all the databases are listed to search individually. There are millions of photos now so will be nearwe the top of the list - It could be categorised under photographs or member trees.


I just heard about "ancestry trees to go" for ipod/iphone and am itching to try it - alas the site is down. the blog mentions a 3 your outage on thurs morning
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