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Re: Boys and Girls Refuges and Childrens Aid society.
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 18 May 10 12:30 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I've just come across this thread but i know it was from a few months ago now. My name is Liz Sykes and I became the Archivist at the Together Trust after Toby Davison left last year. I read the comments with some disappointment that you were not able to get through to me. We do indeed hold records on all of the children who were in our homes and we had several on Cheetham Hill. If you never managed to get contact with the Trust again please do so. We have an enquirys page that will go straight through to me. Manchester central library that hold our records are closed until mid june but I will have access again then. Thanks.

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Re: Boys and Girls Refuges and Childrens Aid society.
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 18 May 10 16:40 BST (UK) »
Hi & welcome Liz, well it is great to have you on board here. There are so many people who come on here hoping to try and trace family members records and now they have a name to ask for. Trying to get any info these days on children in care is really hard going, so anything that can assist is welcome.

Now as we have your attention, is there anything we can dig up for you? I am sure people on here would be more than willing to help you with any lost family members you may have in your own family tree?
We have many trigger happy camera folk in here if any grave to be photographed.

Migky  ;)

PS. The fisherman, my mother went from Angel Meadows to a convent home.

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Re: Boys and Girls Refuges and Childrens Aid society.
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 19 May 10 14:39 BST (UK) »
I am quite happy to answer any enquiries related to the Manchester and Salford Boys and Girls Refuges and Homes or the Boys and Girls Welfare Society as we were later known. On a personal note I am also trying to dig up anything on the Shaw family. Mr Leonard Kilbee Shaw (born 1834 to Robert and Alicia Shaw in Ireland) was one of the co-founders of the charity but we have very little knowledge of him. I know he married Annie Hall in about 1866 in Macclesfield and they had a son, Robert Shaw in 1871. I have traced Robert up until the 1901 census age 30 but I can't find out anything about him after this. I think he'd died by the 1940's but how and when i'm not sure. I would be interested to know if he ever married and had children. If anybody knows anything about the family it would be greatly appreciated.

Liz

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Re: Boys and Girls Refuges and Childrens Aid society.
« Reply #12 on: Monday 21 June 10 15:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Liz

I'm trying to build up a history of orphanages in the UK.  Was yours an actual orphanage or just a home for needy children?

I've looked through the records for the Muller orphanages for Leonard Shaw, but he wasn't one of ours.

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Alan


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Re: Boys and Girls Refuges and Childrens Aid society.
« Reply #13 on: Monday 21 June 10 15:53 BST (UK) »
HI & welcome Alan.
We need all the help we can get with children in homes/care/orphanages.
What resources do you have that might help people looking for the ancestors in these establishments?

Oh! and by chance, is there anything we can help you with?
We nosy buggers and like to help ;D

Migky  ;)

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Re: Boys and Girls Refuges and Childrens Aid society.
« Reply #14 on: Monday 21 June 10 16:14 BST (UK) »
Hi Migky

George Müller founded a faith-based orphanage in Bristol in 1834 - he made no appeals or advertising, but relied solely on God, through prayer, to meet the needs of the orphanage.

During his lifetime (he died in 1898), he cared for over 10,000 "full" orphans (ie children who had lost both parents or, in a couple of rare cases, one had died but the other was in a mental home with no hope of recovery).  From 1901 until the homes closed in the mid-1980s, "partial" orphans were also admitted.

The George Müller Charitable Trust holds the records for all the children who passed through the doors of the orphanages (Müller's own house plus three other rented houses in Wilson Street, from 1834 - 1849, then five purpose-built homes on Ashley Down to the early 1950s, and then to smaller "family" units until we stopped residential care in the 80s).

There are admission registers showing the detail of the child's admission, dismissal registers (cross-referred to the admission registers) for all but the last few years, showing when the child left and where they went, plus files containing assorted paperwork relating to the admission.  We don't know what is in each file until it has been retrieved from the archive, but sometimes there are marriage and death certificates relating to the parents, and birth certificates for the child(ren).

For descendants, we do have to make a charge for copying these.  Visitors are welcome, but we do ask for a fortnight's notice and we have to charge £20 access fee - but this includes a copy of the admission and dismissal registers.  A copy of the file will cost an additional £30.

There is also a small museum at the Trust's HQ in Cotham Park, Bristol.

Contact details are on www.mullers.org.

Regards

Alan

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Re: Boys and Girls Refuges and Childrens Aid society.
« Reply #15 on: Monday 21 June 10 16:24 BST (UK) »
Regarding your request, if this man is still living. Then no i can help as we are not permitted to post anything on possible living people on this forum.
If he died then maybe some one can help.
It is rule of this forum which we have to abide by or post relating to living people will be removed.

Migky  ;)

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Re: Boys and Girls Refuges and Childrens Aid society.
« Reply #16 on: Monday 21 June 10 16:26 BST (UK) »
Hi

Fair enough - I've no idea if he's alive or dead.

Regards

Alan

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Re: Boys and Girls Refuges and Childrens Aid society.
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 01 July 10 06:37 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

I'm hoping someone in here can help me.  Like many others living away from Britain I am hopelessly attempting to put my family tree together from my home in Australia.

One roadblock I have hit was with my Great great grandfather Henry Jolley.  His marriage certificate lists no father which means he was illegitimate (??).  Census's found state he was born in Hindley, Wigan in 1862.  I am wondering what orphanages would have been in and around Hindley that I can search.  If Jolley was his mother's maiden name or the name of someone else he took.  If so my Jolley bloodline stops there.

Can anyone in this thread assist me or point me in the right direction?

Much appreciated.

Jolley - Hindley, Wigan
Green - Ince-in-Makerfield
Hughes - Pemberton
Saide - Wigan