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Re: From Flanders to The Somme...Your photographs.
« Reply #54 on: Thursday 03 December 09 18:39 GMT (UK) »
  if you need anything looking up or tracking down in Surrey anytime - just let me know.

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Oh dear - you might regret that offer! One of my biggest brick walls is in that part of the world. One day, when I have finished this thread, I might just take you up on the offer!
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NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
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Re: From Flanders to The Somme...Your photographs.
« Reply #55 on: Thursday 03 December 09 18:43 GMT (UK) »
 ;D ;D

Well I'll do my best - you've already inspired me to track down a War grave that someone on the Sussex board has been waiting 2 years to get. I've got all the details written down and ready to go next time we have a day trip to Brighton.
Rigg/Scholfield - Oldham/Rochdale
Hibbert/Moore - Hayfield/Saddleworth
Garstang/Kirby - Littleborough/Todmorden
Sutcliffe/Hill - Todmorden/Walsden
Young/Stevenson/Newbutt - Ticknall/Kegworth/Nutall/Hucknall/Bulwell
Woolley/Potter, Gaze/Parkins - Kegworth/Normanton-on-Soar/Wheathampstead/Harpenden
Smith/Green - Offley/Flamstead

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Re: From Flanders to The Somme...Your photographs.
« Reply #56 on: Thursday 03 December 09 18:51 GMT (UK) »
Jen, like davidrigg3 I've been wondering what to write.
Thank you hardly seems adequate. It means a great deal to me have the pictures of Lionel's name.
I'm amazed you managed to find the time to fulfill all the requests, it was quite a list. I'll continue to read this wonderful thread, it's so moving.

Again, very many thanks for the photos.
Have a wonderful Christmas, you deserve it.
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Stutely - Wittersham & Stone
Padgham - Wittersham
Wanstall - Northbourne
Taylor - Ringwould & Ash
Skinner - Deal
Bushell - Walmer
Spain - Walmer
Also
Schloss - Poland, Nottingham, Massachusetts & New Zealand.
Cohen - Birmingham

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Re: From Flanders to The Somme...Your photographs.
« Reply #57 on: Thursday 03 December 09 19:01 GMT (UK) »
I'm just happy to have been able to do it. And have no doubts - I thoroughly enjoyed myself, thoug it seems strange to say that.

But finding my own three family names was more moving than I thought it would be, especially James Shaw Howe. I have been looking at his military records and I now know that he had a shrapnel wound to his head but lived for four days after it happened. I've also been looking at two of his brothers, who also joined the Australian army, in spite of being Sottish by birth and merchant sailors by profession! These two survived and went back to Australia, though I think, from his records, that one must have been either a gas victim or suffered severe shell shock as he is described as being " Not quite right in the head, after the war" and he died a pauper at quite a young age. It makes you think that it wasn't only those who died who need our sympathy.
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ESS: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow Duck Spurden Harmony
SCT: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
WES; Dickenson Jackson Ewbank Waller
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HAM: Williams Grose Lush Venson


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Re: From Flanders to The Somme...Your photographs.
« Reply #58 on: Thursday 03 December 09 19:45 GMT (UK) »
I'll certainly second that ...


... and I MUST go to the Somme one day and see the war graves for myself ....

... perhaps next year or the one after ...
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Re: From Flanders to The Somme...Your photographs.
« Reply #59 on: Thursday 03 December 09 20:02 GMT (UK) »
I'm certainly going back. It was too much for my brain to take in on one short trip and there is so much more to see.

Here is Walter Ralph and Perth Cemetery for Linda_J On the longer shot, his is the fourth grave from the left, against the wall.
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ESS: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow Duck Spurden Harmony
SCT: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
WES; Dickenson Jackson Ewbank Waller
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« Reply #60 on: Thursday 03 December 09 20:11 GMT (UK) »
Maybe its time we had a RootsChat trip ?   
Dorset/Wilts/Hants: Trowbridge Williams Sturney/Sturmey Prince Foyle/Foil Hoare Vincent Fripp/Frypp Triggle/Trygel Adams Hibige/Hibditch Riggs White Angel Cake 
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« Reply #61 on: Thursday 03 December 09 20:54 GMT (UK) »
What a good idea. Are you going to organise it?

The next place after Perth Cemetery was Tyne Cot, which is one of those places which is utterly impossible to comprehend. The huge numbers of graves, many of which were just "A soldier of the Great War" or "Known unto God", plus the wall at the back with yet more thousands of names of unfound casualties.

Being the biggest of its type, there is a massive car park and a Visitor Centre with photographs, audio visual displays, artefacts belonging to soldiers, some found in the area after the war, others donated by families and including letters, medals, pieces of uniform etc.

As I walked down the path from the car park, I was aware of a quiet voice,  which seemed to be coming from absolutely nowhere. It was a woman's voice, almost monotonous and it just went on and on and on.....

.....until, when I got into the Visitor Centre, I found that one of the displays was an ever changing screen, with photographs of servicemen who had died. As each one came up, the quiet, sad voice gave his name and his age and then moved on to the next, never stopping, never changing tone. I was, for some time, rooted to the spot as dozens of young men appeared and disappeared. I'm not sure over what period of time but it gave the name of a soldier who had died on every day of the week and month and I suspect, if I had stayed longer, for the whole of 1917 at least.

An old woman, on another screen, talked about how her childhood had been stolen from her when she and the other six and seven year olds were confronted with a truck load of gas victims and were made to go around them trying to get them to drink milk. "What childhood", she said, " I was never a child." ( I think it was here that I saw this film - it might have been in Poperinge, I have lost track, a little, of some of the museums -  but what does it matter, the message was what was important )

There were short pieces of film showing horses literally drowning in the mud, whilst men tried to pull them free. And of men in the trenches, alive, injured and dead. Men trying to push and pull huge pieces of artillery and watching helplessly as tanks became completely bogged down.

This wasn't an easy place to be and I was relieved when at the end of the photographic displays, there was a much more recent and uplifting one, of some of the last veterans, including Harry Patch, visiting the centre a few years ago.

I have lots of photographs of the actual cemetery to follow.
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ESS: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow Duck Spurden Harmony
SCT: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
WES; Dickenson Jackson Ewbank Waller
STS: White
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Re: From Flanders to The Somme...Your photographs.
« Reply #62 on: Thursday 03 December 09 22:10 GMT (UK) »
Tyne Cot.

The date on the cross, 4th October 1917, was the day after my great uncle, fighting with the Australian army, was wounded. I would love to know where he was but the very knowledgeable man in Talbot House said that he was almost certainly at Passchaendale.

All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

ESS: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow Duck Spurden Harmony
SCT: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
WES; Dickenson Jackson Ewbank Waller
STS: White
SRY: Knight
DUR: Smith Littlefair
HAM: Williams Grose Lush Venson