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Re: mclarens perthshire
« Reply #81 on: Thursday 01 December 11 03:00 GMT (UK) »
My mother is Margaret McLaren (Ratcliffe)......she was born to Thomas Mclaren and Rachel Ewen
My mum was raised by the side of Lochearnhead (Lavender Cottage) Her fathers brother was Douglas McLaren who owned the shop and garage at Lochearnhead........I have traced our McLarens to Mornish by the side of LochTay,Donald Mclaren, born in 1794, his father was Dugal McLaren.....I am now stuck at Dugal ,as my mum  seems to think her Mclarens came from Lochearnhead originally,word of mouth , so how true this is I don't know  :)

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« Reply #82 on: Thursday 01 December 11 09:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dizzylamb , you may well be right re the McLarens moving from Lochearnhead north to Loch Tay.  my g/g/g grandparents were both McLarens , Catherine from Easter Auchraw (now Briar Cottage) and Donald from Cloichran , Loch Tay.
my g/g/g/g grandparents were also both McLarens , Donald again from Cloichran , and Mary from Ardveich , as you know just along Loch Earn from Lochearnhead.
i can only conclude that each generation were either cousins , 2nd cousins etc. , but they never seemed to be allowed to marry within their own parishes.
You will be related to me somehow , i will have a look , as i have a family tree that may help.
We all seem to get back to a period about the 1730's where the trail ends , or becomes too confusing.

yours gordon

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Re: mclarens perthshire
« Reply #83 on: Monday 05 December 11 22:45 GMT (UK) »
Apologies to bleckie but the old historical maps on-line at NLS have been updated.

Here is an easier way in:

http://geo.nls.uk/search/mosaic/#zoom=6&lat=56.71138&lon=-4.9&layers=000B0000000

Then add your National Grid Reference (box, top, left)

NG Ref you need is NN 7350 1700

Then hit RETURN on your keyboard and you should be at Mailerfuar

Throth

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« Reply #84 on: Thursday 19 January 12 11:54 GMT (UK) »
my 4 x g/grandfather Malcolm , in trouble with the Earl of Breadalbane. find attached pic of page.


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Re: mclarens perthshire
« Reply #85 on: Friday 27 January 12 04:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi folks I'm looking for info on a Archibald McLaren who married a Cathrine Lamb in 1806. Archibald was from Kirklane in the parish of Kincardine and Catherine was from Kippen. I believe they had a Son John in 1807 and my ggg Grandfather Archibald sometime around 1814 possibly in St Johns New Brunswick. If anyone has any info that could help me trace my tree back further it would be much appreciated.

Kind Regards, Ross.

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Re: mclarens perthshire
« Reply #86 on: Friday 27 January 12 18:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ross , in addition to John , born 1807 , their is a Mary , born on 28th September 1809 , and christened on 3rd October 1809 at Falkirk . found on Familysearch.

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Re: mclarens perthshire
« Reply #87 on: Friday 27 January 12 21:31 GMT (UK) »

Thanks for that Gordon I was unaware of Mary or of any link to Falkirk. They must of stayed in Falkirk for a time before going to north America. Sheds some light on when they must of went, sometime between 1809-1814. Thanks again.

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Re: mclarens perthshire
« Reply #88 on: Monday 30 January 12 10:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi;

Am looking for any help on ancestors of:

Colin McLaren-1 was born about 1787 in Lochearnhead, Loch Earn, Perthshire, Scotland. He died in 1860 in Beckwith Twp., Lanark County, Ontario, Canada.

Mary Christian 'Christine' Henderson was born about 1784 in Perthshire, Scotland. She died on Unknown in Beckwith Twp., Lanark County, Ontario, Canada.

Colin McLaren and Mary Christian 'Christine' Henderson were married on 02 Aug 1806 in Lochearnhead, St. Fillans, Comrie Parish, Loch Earn, Perthshire, Scotland. They had the following children:

i.   Donald McLaren was born on 18 Aug 1807 in Balquhidder, Lochearnhead, Perthshire, Scotland.

3.   ii. George McLaren was born on 20 May 1809 in Balquhidder, Lochearnhead, Perthshire, Scotland. He married Christena McLaren about 1854 in Lanark County, Ontario, Canada. He died on 21 Jan 1887 in The Derry, Beckwith Twp., Lanark County, Ontario, Canada.

4.   iii. Peter McLaren was born about 1812 in Perthshire, Scotland. He married Mary Ann McDonald about 1841 in Lanark Twp., Lanark County, Ontario, Canada. He died on 15 May 1858 in Lanark Twp., Lanark County, Ontario, Canada.

5.   iv. Margaret McLaren was born on 15 Oct 1815 in Balquhidder, Lochearnhead, Perthshire, Scotland. She married Alexander 'Soldier Sandy' Stewart about 1831 in Perthshire, Scotland. She died on 28 Mar 1895 in The Derry, Beckwith Twp., Lanark County, Ontario, Canada.

v.   Elizabeth McLaren was born about 1816 in Ontario, Canada.

5.   vi. Duncan McLaren was born about 1818 in Ontario, Canada. He died in Jun 1897 in Lanark County, Ontario, Canada. He married Margaret McNee on Unknown.

vii.   John McLaren was born about 1819 in Ontario, Canada. He died on Unknown.

viii.   Colin McLaren was born in Mar 1822 in Lanark County, Ontario, Canada. He died on 17 May 1905 in Lanark County, Ontario, Canada.

6.   ix. Mary McLaren was born about 1830 in Ontario, Canada. She died on 27 Oct 1897. She married Daniel McLaren on Unknown.



Thanks

Mark

Hi Mark,
I was wondering what information you have about Peter McLaren born in 1812. My ancestor was named Peter McLaren. Everything matches nearly perfectly with what you have except that his wife was Agnes Morris. There is a record of their marriage in Bathurst on April 13, 1842.

1843
"April 13 Peter MCLAREN, Beckwith, to Agnes MORRIS, Drummond. Wit: William McLean, Alexander Graham."
<http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~maryc/bathurst3.htm>

They had the following children:
Colin (b.1844)
John (1846)
Catherine (1848)
Christian/Christine (1850)
Elizabeth (1852)
Peter (1854)
Duncan (1856)

Furthermore, there is an older woman named Christine (well Chistian it says) McLaren who was born around 1785 living with them in 1852. I was going to attach the image but I am unable to do so. I've attached the census image. Peter is #9, the older Christian is #15.

By 1861, Agnes had been widowed. I have no information about when Peter died but 1858 would fit really well. In 1852, Agnes' name is given as Ann. Do you think it's possible she later married a McDonald? I can find no record for her after 1861 and there are no Ann or Agnes McLaren matching in the 1871 census. I assumed she had died. What source do you have for her name? Everything else fits so perfectly into this tree. Names and dates and everything. I read the first son was often named after the paternal grandfather which would be Colin. There's also the daughter named Christian/Christine.

I don't know what happened to most of the children. I know that Catherine married Jack Carnduff and moved to Manitoba with her sister, Elizabeth, in the late 1870s. Here is a link to her marriage in 1874. Elizabeth married Samuel Moorhead in Manitoba in 1883. Her mother's name on the marriage registration is Agnes Morrison. Her obituary says she was born in Innisville. I'd appreciate any information you have. I've been stuck with this line for a long time. I look forward to hearing from you,

Tyler

Here are links to the marriages of two of Peter and Agnes' daughters.


Christian/Christine/Christena's marriage:
Vol 4, pg. 282 - Robert HUGHES, 24, blacksmith, Innisville - Drummond twp., same, s/o Robert HUGHES & Isabella TOMLINSON, married Christena McLAREN, 20, Beckwith twp., same, d/o Peter McLAREN & Agnes MORRISON, witn: John & Catherine McLAREN of Beckwith twp., 10 Feb 1870 at Carleton Place
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~maryc/lanark70.htm

Catherine's marriage:
5638-74 John CARNDUFF, 22, laborer, Ireland, Montague, s/o Sam CARNDUFF & Sarah PORTER, married Catherine McLAREN, 24, Beckwith, Carleton Place, d/o Peter McLAREN & Agnes MORRIS, witn: Peter McLAREN & Amelia PANNET, both of Beckwith, 10 July 1874 at Smith Falls
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~maryc/lanark74.htm
Tyler

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Re: mclarens perthshire
« Reply #89 on: Sunday 01 April 12 12:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Dizzylamb , you may well be right re the McLarens moving from Lochearnhead north to Loch Tay.  my g/g/g grandparents were both McLarens , Catherine from Easter Auchraw (now Briar Cottage) and Donald from Cloichran , Loch Tay.
my g/g/g/g grandparents were also both McLarens , Donald again from Cloichran , and Mary from Ardveich , as you know just along Loch Earn from Lochearnhead.
i can only conclude that each generation were either cousins , 2nd cousins etc. , but they never seemed to be allowed to marry within their own parishes.
You will be related to me somehow , i will have a look , as i have a family tree that may help.
We all seem to get back to a period about the 1730's where the trail ends , or becomes too confusing.

yours gordon

thanks Gordon, sorry I hadnt replied earlier but my father was diagnosed with secondary cancer last September, so I was busy looking after him and helping mum until he passed away end of January, so not much time spent in genealogy.....I have looked for my Dugal on Sotlands People and can't find him, dispite trying different name varients.....any help would be very much appreciated.....:)